Yeah, I guess when I look at YouTube and his command list, Hol Horse doesn’t look too hard. I’ll give him a shot on the weekend (assuming I’m not distracted by Old Joseph and Lisa Lisa).
Surprised no one mentioned Jotaro, Diavolo or Cesar. Though in all honesty, with the exception of Mista, everyone in this game is really braindead and you can get an idea of how go play anyone by watching a couple of vids and practicing for 10 minutes.
If anyone is interested, I am going to be streaming the two new DLC characters when the psn store updates (probably in like an hour)
Post a link dude! Lol.
I am now live:
LisaLisa is like a weird version of Noel from BB and Angel from KoF. Interesting… Oh, and Old Joseph is a grappler… kinda, well, more of a grappler than anyone else in the game, that’s for sure.
Just in messing with Old Joseph for like ten minutes, I think the coolest thing about him so far is that his Stand On hcf+H OTGs. This lets him get 284 damage off a back throw for 1 meter even midscreen with Back Throw, hcf+H(2 hits) Puttsun c.LLL s.LMH XX hcf+M, f+[mash S]. You can also keep looping into the hcf+H as long as you have meter to spend.
Also, his Stand On sweep has silly range and again you can OTG after it with the hcf+H.
Thanks everyone for watching me get hype off getting 2 colors and 1 costume in one boss run.
LisaLisa notes:
*As Turbovec stated, she plays like Noel from BB and Angel from KoF (rekka trees and whatnot)
–the second hit of the rekka must be timed AFTER she does that weird spin from the first hit
–alternatively, you can mash 6A to finish the rekkas (which ends in a crumple that cannot be combo’ed unless you have meter to cancel)
–if the first hit is blocked, she can opt to do a mid or low mixup rekka option
–she also has a hopping throw option somewhere in her rekka chains
*She can throw knives from a forward jump (not Ibuki/Akuma status)
*She has a special sidestep-stance with rekka chains also
*She cannot ripple-guard (barrier) like other ripple characters
*Her level 1 super is unblockable, and can be charged to delay
*Her level 2 super is COUNTER that looks hella badass
*Her alternate costume is the one with the clown mask that she wears in her first appearance.
Old Joseph notes:
*As previously stated in the above post, his Stand-On hcf+C can OTG, and can be looped if you have meter to puttsun cancel.
*Stand-on sweep has range for days
*According to Turbovec, his stand off hcb+S is a BURST that costs half meter.
*Has ripple-charging with d,d+S (imagine that, plus a burst)
*Has a zipline move that only goes up-back
*His level 1 super is a COUNTER
*His level 2 super is a strike (I think)
Overall, these characters seem pretty impressive. Old Joseph is indeed the business, but I need more time in the lab with LisaLisa to find out her true potential. CC2 is smart to release these characters before the patch, so they can fix any problems.
Old Joseph’s HCB+S isn’t really a burst, its more like Iggy’s pre-emptive counter, where it blows up the next time they hit you. Oldseph’s is way better because you can still do specials and turn on your stand, but it only counters attacks that hit his torso, and it goes away if he get thrown.
Well not to be confused with the state of counter hit, which the game seems to have, a Geese counter is a move where the character goes into a pose, grabs attacks during that pose, and retaliates back. Axl has it, Gouken has it and ASB has a lot of it.
Edit:
Copy pasted from my twitter:
They changed the campaign mode in JJASB. Boss encounter rates increased and colors seems to be thrown at you with no kills needed. So easy.
So Geese Counter is basically a counter hold animation. Hmm.
I’ll just wait for NA release now, still bummed at 30 FPS game is just incredibly slow.
like if the NA release will have 60 fps? oO
play it, get used to it and the slowness will fade away… it was slow to me as well after the first game, now i love it.
Gotta say, I love Old Joseph’s OTG. It even works after his HHA, allowing you to tack on some nice damage after a successful counter. If anyone doesn’t know what the oilslick does, it crumples any player that steps on it (Yes, even yourself). Might be good for combo extending with other characters.
If you’re Old Joseph and you happen to have full meter, you can build enough meter in an extended loop combo to Puttsun four times, and it ends up outdamaging simply going into GHA. Here are some numbers (all combos in Stand On mode for this):
2L 5LMH XX hcf+H(2 hit) Puttsun [2LLL 5LMH XX hcf+H(2 hit) Puttsun]x3 2LLL 5LMH XX hcf+M, f+[mash S] (467 damage, 4ish meters used, 15ish% meter left)
2LLL 5LMH XX hcf+H(2 hit) Puttsun GHA (452 damage, 3 meters used, no meter left)
Back Throw, hcf+H(2 hit) Puttsun [2LLL 5LMH XX hcf+H(2 hit) Puttsun]x3 2LLL 5LMH XX hcf+M, f+[mash S] (484 damage, 4ish meters used, 15ish% meter left)
Back Throw, hcf+H(2 hit) Puttsun GHA (400 damage, 3 meters used, 0 meter left)
Note that, in the first combo, if you add more 2Ls at the very start, it ends up scaling the combo such that the damage total ends up slightly less (462 instead of 467 if you have two additional 2Ls at the start). The GHA version doesn’t have to worry about scaling, so I threw in the extra normals at the beginning. I also tried 2H instead of 5H in these combos, but the sweep does less damage and builds less meter such that you don’t even build the extra meter for the additional Puttsun Cancel. Sweep, however, is still going to be good as a ranged poke, and if you start the loop with 2H, hcf+H, you get 455 damage out of it.
Old Joseph completes me.
Also Iggy is fun, Lisa Lisa will be annoying to fight…and I know I’ll be fighting her a lot.
Lisa Lisa is probably really susceptible to counters though, so if you have a good one, it’s not gonna be AS annoying.
Fuck it, I can’t hold out til NA release for Oldseph. Gimme this character NOW!
I’ve been watching him on Youtube he looks way too fun. I find it crazy he can get a full combo off PC with his otg move, I wonder if that was supposed to be like that?
And wow, is that the same voice as young Joseph? If so wow, the dude must have crazy range, most I’ve seen in a Japanese VA. He definitely sounds old and grizzled.
There are many moves in this game that cannot be PC’d, so it’s definitely intentional.