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nice list javits… #10 got me thinking of ways to use it othe than Ryu, and well i did come up with something.

Sometimes while doing a c.RH a player will focus attack me and there is nothing i can do (usually my fault for always throwing out c.RH lol).

But, now i realize that if a player tries to FA a c.RH, i can FADC back into Ultra (with meter, and of course reaction time) Timing on it is weird.

Also, i only tested this against Sagat, but after FADC c.RH i could j.FP before he recovered, if he did the full level 3 FA

ShawnLoganOwnzu :

That’s a very interesting idea you have there but it is very situational. I’ll explain:

-You need 2 meters to FADC your cr. RH

-They need to focus your cr. RH AND release it (you would have to react to their focus to FADC your cr. RH AND react to their release to activate ultra)

-you need to have a full back charge.

In theory, it would be a sick counter to their counter but I think it would be very difficult to pull that off. Thanks for thinking though. Thinking and coming up with ideas is good. That’s how new techniques get discovered.

FUCK ROG

ya, I said it…

good shit though. would love to see #10

Works. I love it.

Jav1ts, this is great will head practice man!

cheers

Tested trick #1 [the force stand combo]

Doesn’t work on the girls or Sim. [cl.fierce whiffs entirely]

Couldn’t get it to work against **Gief, Blanka or Abel

** [It seemed like the recoil animation on those two were extremely quick, and the close standing fierce hits immediately, rather than with its latent active frames. ]

Works but extremely tight timing on **Dictator, Vega, **[Standing close fierce meaties, but alot sooner than characters lsited below.]

Works with ease on **Rufus, Shotos and Rog.

**That’s all i’ve tested so far.
Probably take that with a grain of salt, my execution isn’t exactly great, so would be nice if the better players could double check the roster and come up with a more accurate explanation/list.

Alot of great secrets Jav1tz, can’t wait to try them all out.

@tetrisburger: Slight correction on that. Force stand works on Sakura.

oh cheers, sorry, i didn’t test on sakura or rose haha [got lazy]

tetrisburger thanks for testing this on the cast. I was too lazy so when I tried it on chun and blanka it didn’t work so I figured it was only on shotos (ken/akuma/ryu). It’s nice to know that it works on Rufus and Rog because I find that I can land jump-ins often on them if they whiff sweeps. I’m going to update the first post with more ways to punish Honda’s headbutt. You can punish jab headbutt with ultra and you can punish EX headbutt with ultra if you stand block then reversal ultra and hold kicks.

on trick#4 it might be worth noting that the jump back fierce to st.Forward only works on bigger characters and the whole thing whiffs on balrog.

I was thinking about this and I’ve been messing around with it. Please mention if this was previously explored.

Everyone knows how TAP is really unsafe

I was thinking about baiting a move with TAP and FADC dash forward or back into ultra/super

cool thread, thx for the info. nice to see people not sleeping on smk anymore.

updated first post with a video showing how to make ultra 1 frame faster with proof.

Rog fierce dash straight is -8 on block. if you do reversal ultra and HOLD kicks, he can crouch or block the ultra. If you do reversal ultra and Piano kicks as it is leaving the ultra freeze, it will become 1 frame faster and will punish the blocked fierce dash straight.

jesus javits get some fucking sleep god damn lol

lol it does seem like im on at all random times, i work 12 am to 8 am nightshift and go to school in the evenings so my life is all backwards lol

Awesome stuff Jav1ts, good to know mashing has a use!

i love this thread<3

Any video’s of Trick 4?

Sakura/Chun-li was here. Your tricks are no more a secret! stares intently
So I see you wanna punish hazanshu…takes notes

new combo in the works, Super into Ultra instead of Ultra into Super. not confirmed yet, im at work so i cant test it. i want you guys to help me test it and see if you can make it work.

  • from mid screen *
    After focus crumple (level 2 or level 3 focus attack), dash, level 1 TAP, let it recover, then do super holding all kicks (with the super ending in the corner), activate ultra before they land using 1-frame faster trick.

[[-- vs abel and rufus – you have to cancel the TAP into super then hold all kicks -]]

  • in corner *
    After focus crumple, (level 2 or level 3 focus attack), dash, level 1 TAP, cancel to super, whiff the first punch (straight) then hold kicks for the rest to juggle, then before they land, activate ultra using 1 frame faster trick.

[- vs abel and rufus – you have to let the TAP recover, then super holding all kicks -]]

Test this out please and tell me your results