Japanese Hakan Strategies

honestly, I’ve tried a bunch of different setups, and either yun/yang have no standing wakeup frames after knockdown, or their wakeup frames are at such an oddball number that nothings working.

Get behind them. It helps.

eh? I need visual reference ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; <3

ugh i feel like the twins are glitched, and they cannot be wakeup 360+k’d >.<,

I hope this can go in this thread and if it is up already forgive me.
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Awesome! Finally a good setup vs Seth! Great work Dpendleton…hopefully this guy puts up more videos like this!

Thanks I hope he does put more stuff up. I am going to go home and try these set ups.

Yeah definitely. So the Seth one is an unblockable?

It looks like it drew.

I wonder if it could work against sagat too. I’m gonna play around with this when I get home

no, he just whiffs and crosses up. Dammit… i don’t like using the whiff c.mp after slide press against sagat because he can block the j.hk and reversal tiger uppercut before you can block string him with lp. c.mp is only good if you know he’s going to wakeup reversal.

Yeah, i noticed this the other day, really sucks.

Can uncrouchable Oil Dive setups be backdashed, as a general rule? Will they beat most DPs or at least make them whiff? If not, can you delay the dive to make it catch the DP?

Wow that’s retarded. And my main is Seth…

Yeah, they can be backdashed. There are setups referred to as SS Oil Dives, which will catch DPs as well as being uncrouchable, but they’re a little harder to do. But yeah totally, you could delay it and catch the DP.

The unblockable certainly will change that matchup, for those who know about it anyway. Such a tough one for Hakan.

was just watching the Jap Hakan popular committee videos lol
1 effective setup they use is:

[ dive (into corner) > lp.sliding > j.hk ]
-i think the j.hk is a safe cross up and then lands in front. ( just like magos fei j.mp setup)

this is pretty good to use, definitely xcopy!

Oh yeah I’ve seen an arcade Hakan do this, works really well in the left corner. I don’t think it hits meaty so the opponent can jump out, but I’m not sure if you’ll get hit with reversal DP. Needs testing.

is that seth set up specifically when you’re un-oiled?

Yeah. Doesn’t work when you’re oiled, you’ll just jump over his head.

That makes oiling up against him a little less important then…

Drew, you’re from Scotland right? nice to see someone british nailing an obscure character!! your videos are very good.