I was referring to the Jeremy Jahns video. I had bad feeling about something leading up to the movie. His non spoiler review lead me to believe what I thought was true and the spoiler video confirms. So I’m not interested.
Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB polls don’t know what they’re talking about.
Those people who down voted Dark Fate were probably born in 2000 or something.
Dark Fate is like watching 1990s Terminator movie!!!
Again, don’t click spoilers below:
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How did Dani know about the Skynet Terminator living in the past by giving Grace those coordinates. Looks like another time loop or timeline plot hole…
One of my friends saw it while I was out of town. His words were “It’s good enough and you won’t hate it, but you can wait”.
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Just went back from watching Dark Fate. Didn’t exactly HATE it like Genisys, but also remained confused on why this movie exists. Maybe a sorta reboot?
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LOL why did they even kill John Connor at all? It didn’t really change anything as Skynet remained non-existant. I will say though, I was thoroughly impressed with the CGI in that flashback scene. Sarah, John, hell, even younger Arnie looked more realistic than all the previous attempts of making Arnie look young again.
If you’re not into feminist stuff, then you will probably not take a liking to this movie. Old Sarah was badass, of course, but when Dany was revealed that she was not the mother of the resistance’s leader but instead she WAS the resistance leader the message was kinda bit on the nose.
Didn’t care much for new android chick as much as Sam Wortington’s character in Salvation as they pretty much seemed like the exact same character.
And I never thought I would say this, but bringing back Arnie as the T-800 in the exact same role (Terminator who sympathizes/bonds with humans) is getting stale and redundant. Hell, why even have him dying again, that shit is also played out.
Didn’t care much for the new Terminator, seemed like a minor derivative of the T-1000/T-X. Oh he can create a clone now? WHOOPIE FUCKIN DOO
The action scenes were pretty cool I will admit. Tons of badass sequences, although the underwater scene was…messy.
Like I said, it LOOKS like they are aiming for a reboot with Legion replacing Skynet, although Legion’s origins and intentions do not seem to be all that different from Skynet? I guess they just wanted to copy/paste Skynet without having to mention Skynet again
You won’t TOTALLY hate this movie, but like I said, still feels pointless to me.
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Just watched it, I thought it was kinda awesome. The worst knocks against it are the CG is really bad at some parts. Pretty much anytime the T-Juan-Thousand leaps or flips around it looks really fake. Also, it renders all terminator lore redundant while at the same time recycling the same story much like The Force Awakens. But the movie itself was good. If you get triggered by Women in lead roles avoid it, if you are a die-hard Terminator fan avoid it, if you want a good action movie it’s worth a watch.
I just assumed in that timelime Charles was a part of the resistance. He was probably the one who gave her the coordinates to his place
If you are a Terminator fan and a triggered by women in lead rolls…how are you a Terminator fan? Serious question.
Edit: I’ve read the spoilers.
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The reason. I have no interest in this movie is that it literally nullifies the T1 and T2 before the credits even start. They just regurgitated the same basic story line AGAIN. A shitty as Genisys was it still gave the character of John Connor his due respect. Skynet literally said “I can’t beat this guy so I’ll convert him.” And he was the only human ever strong enough to survive that conversion. Smoking John like an extra in the intro. Really guys?
They just need to leave the Terminator IP alone. Since T2, we got T3 which was T2 all over again. Genisys which, had some decent ideas IMO, was horribly executed. Dark Fate is yet another Terminator gets sent to the past to kill important person story. How many times can we get the same story again and be entertained. It’s like Final Destination. If you seen the first one, no need to watch the rest.
Salvation was the only movie in the franchise with a unique plot. It took place in the future not the present. I actually think it is the best Terminator movie outside of the first two. At least it tried to tell at different type of story. I often wonder how it would have been received if they didn’t spoil the major and most important plot element in the ad campaign. Knowing Marcus was Terminator going in ruined the movie in my opinion. I remember thinking how cool it would have felt not knowing he was a Terminator when the magnetic mine sticks to him. He wakes up and the Resistance knows he’s a Terminator. And yet he doesn’t. That should have been a huge emotional moment shared between his character and the audience. The moment had zero emotional impact. They showed the damn twist in the ad campaign.
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I also agree that Salvation is kinda underrated in the sense that it DID try to come up with a new plotline by taking place ENTIRELY in the future and the war against the machines. The ending with Marcus’ sacrifice is also pretty original too, as I did not really see it coming, but yeah, would have been better if they kept the reveal from Marcus being an android/Terminator hybrid away from the trailers.
But it is true: Terminator movies are becoming quite predictable. It basically becomes: Some Terninator from the future comes back to the past to kill insert important figure here + someone else comes back from the future to protect said figure + SACRIFICES. That’s why I mentioned that all the Terminator sequels after 2 (minus Salvation) pretty much tread the same ground and expect the same brilliancy, yet achieve nothing.
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You say that like it’s a bad thing. We all have our preferences. Dark Fate sucked for continuing yet another retelling of the already tired story we have heard.
Terminator should have never been a franchise.
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Basically they sent back T-800 to protect John in T2, a T-1000 to kill John in T2 and then more T-800s to kill John in if the T-1000 failed. At the time there was only 1 T-1000 (a prototype) during the events of T2 and not multiple T-1000s (it was like a test terminator).
Finally, one of the T-800s caught up with John.
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Also, did anyone notice that the Rev-9 didn’t know what to do with the T-800 because they are from 2 different timelines like the Mortal Kombat story lines nowadays?
For those of you who thought it was Mary Sue shit then you must hate Terminator 2.
Sarah Conner was basically the Mary Sue who stood up to the T-1000 and the T-800 just gave the final assist so that the T-1000 would fall into molten steel and so forth.
You must hate Rambo: Last Blood as well.
Coincidentally, Last Blood and Dark Fate both have an affinity towards Mexico.
It’s safe to say that Last Blood and Dark Fate will be the final movies of their franchises. In other words, Sylvester will not do another Rambo and Arnold will not do another Terminator.
Terminator 3, Terminator 4, and Terminator 5 are basically different time lines that are still canon that could have happened (like those what if endings fro different characters in Mortal Kombat).
T1, T2, and Dark Fate are all in the main Terminator time line (what really happened)…
At least until the next reboot movie where it will promote itself as the real Terminator 3.
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LOL yeah, this is like…the third time they rebooted the timeline. Unless you want to consider Genisys which tried to reboot EVERYTHING.
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I was heavily debating seeing this. I loved T1 and T2, but thought T3 was mediocre.
I have never seen T4:Salvation or T5: Genesis, o rthe Sarah Connor TV show.
I had a glimmer of hope since Linda Hamilton came back (her net worth is 70 M so shes not doing it for the money) and I liked Tim Miller’s Deadpool 1.
I went and spoiled myself willingly and am upset about the big changes in the film.
Anyhoo, here is Andre /Black Nerd Comedy’s review - 6.6666/10
Stuckmann- C
NOTE: Major spoilers after 4:30!
The Sarah Connor Chronicles was excelllent fam. As far as the movies go, the only one worth watching after T2 is Salvation. It’s the only one where, if you have not been spoiled, you won’t see everything coming. It was actually an attempt to move the franchise forward instead of just retelling the same damn story for the umpteenth time.
While I’m certain it fits some of the complainers, any Terminator fan that hates a movie purely for having female leads was never Terminator fan to begin with. Strong female leads have been a consistent thing throughout the movies good or bad. When Reese comes back to the past in T1, he tells Sarah that John got his strength and resourcefulness from Sarah. She taught him. And we all know what a badass she was in T2. It was the first time I remember an actress getting "buff’ for a film. T3 had Kate Brewster/Connor (Claire Danes) and T-X (Kristanna Loken). Salvation had Blair Williams (Moon Bloodgood and yes that’s really her name), Kate Connor (Bryce Dallas Howard), and the scientist…crap gonna have to Google her name played by Helena Bonham Carter.
Edit: Serena Korgan was Helena Bonham Carter’s character.
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I am sure that no one (outside some truly stupid individuals) have a problem with a strong female lead in any movie or series.
Like you said, multiple franchises have had strong female chars for a long time.
The problem is that right now, it has become a buzzword for hollywood people to try to virtue signal while delivering poor writen chars and dumb pandering.
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Agreed. I’m so sick of any criticism leveled at any movie starring a women being dismissed with the “sexist trolls” argument. Assuming a man dislikes a movie because a woman is the star is sexist.
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Tim Miller discusses the reason behind
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killing John Connor
https://collider.com/terminator-dark-fate-john-connor-death-explained/
About to see Dark Fate. Seeing it for under $2 thanks to a coupon I had on fandango.
I’m the only one here for this screening.
Let’s do this.
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