hey guys, what the max damage DT combo you can do without x-factor or assist?
Im actually confused. Did you mean omit j.M midscreen only? Because without it midscreen on ryu, air play will not connect from just using j.h.
Alright someone tell me two things.
First…what the fuck is up with this combo. Yes I’m asking AGAIN because the inconsistency of them teching out of prop shredder is really pissing me off.
I start with the MH xx Volcano j.MH xx Air Play j.H, H, S, H (Charge shot), S (prop shredder). Half the time…they are still teching out. It seems a crap shoot. I really can’t figure out why it’s random for me. I just did this shit for like 2 hours straight…nothing but this combo.
Second…and I know it’s been asked a million times, is the consistency of Sky Dance last hit whiffing. In the corner, it seems easier. You just delay it a bit…I think, though it still sometimes will hit. Seems luckish. But midscreen I almost never see it.
Finally, when using the basic BnB of Dante…why does everyone use just S after the dive kick. I use HS (when not online facing slight lag). It’s unnecessary yes…but extra hit’s and dmg.
Sorry if I wrote what I said badly and confused you. No, you can omit the j.M completely at both midscreen and corner for every character except for Sentinel, who is the only character that requires the j.M. Not to say that you can’t use it if it works for you, but a lot of people seem to omit it due to various reasons.
As far as Ryu falling out midscreen from bnb> j.H xx Air Play xx j.H, I’m not sure what’s happening on your side for Ryu to fall out.
I just went into the lab and performing it midscreen versus Ryu worked fine for me.
The only thing I can say it could be besides a timing issue is when you’re performing the j.H xx Air Play xx j.H section of the combo, on the initial j.H you might be jumping straight up when you perform the j.H, instead of forward jumping. If you jump straight up, you won’t be able to connect Air Play after the heavy attack in most circumstances, and if it does connect before they tech you’ll be too far away to continue the string. I don’t know how much experience you have with Dante, so I have to cover every possible angle so ignore that if what I said sounds blatantly obvious.
But if Ryu is the only person you’re having trouble doing it with midscreen, then I really don’t know. At that point it’s perplexing, but hopefully it’s just something simple like that.
In regards to your Prop Shredder question, it’s a timing issue. You’re most likely doing the Prop Shredder too soon and hitting the opponent’s feet. The last hit of Prop Shredder that knocks them into the air is actually whiffing, and when that hit whiffs the opponent will instantly air tech. Try delaying Prop Shredder just slightly so it hits more of their body and they won’t tech it.
At least, I think that’s what you were asking. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Are you referring to the day 1 bnb?
Mostly because it’s easier I suppose, I’m a sucker for removing variables that over-complicate things that can lead to dropping something in a clutch moment.
In other terms, I like doing braindead things that’s harder to drop which means I have no idea why the hell I play one of the top 5 most execution heavy characters in the game
I never jump straight up in that combo. It’s always forward. As far as prop shredder…I’ve heard delay it. That isn’t it though. I’ve delayed it and it hasn’t popped up. I’ve done it too soon on the tip of their feet and it’s popped up. So I sit and wonder…wtf. Do you hit it every time? The only thing I’ve noticed is that the faster I do the combo, it seems to work more often. But doing it faster sometimes makes that Charge Shot miss them if you dont delay the ground H,S slightly.
I need to find a way to record this shit so I can show you guys…that would be better. I actually JUST bought ps3 when mvc3 came out. That made buying it a must. Can you record with this fucker anyone know?
I didn’t think you were jumping straight up, but I had to get that variable out of the way just to be sure.
I really don’t know, are you still having problems dropping it midscreen on Ryu?
You don’t have to delay it much, just a handful of frames. Sometimes depending on the character it can be deceptive.
Let me take back what I said about you probably hitting their feet though, as sometimes the feet work fine depending on the character.
It’s more like you’re hitting the tip of their hurtbox, which is why the last hit of prop shredder is whiffing.
I generally get it every time, it’s just a muscle memory thing you have to build up. You’ll learn the timing eventually.
There’s video editing software available on the PSN store, but as far as I know there isn’t a way to record in-game footage.
If you really want you could just add me to PSN and show me what you’re talking about, but then you’d have to deal with the laggy netcode and that might be counter intuitive.
after the bnb->j.H, air play, j.H im seeing some dante players land, dash up and MH->cold shower xx prop shredder-> w/e
any trick to this? i cant seem to land it at all so im wondering if its the right inputs i have? any tips on this combo?
You don’t land. You can either buffer the air dash to come out after air play and hit J.H followed by the rest of the combo, or just do the regular one then hit M,H xx Cold Shower, if I’m not mistaken the dash is only necessary midscreen.
you can land and ground dash too. i prefer to do it myself that way actually.
Either remove the J.M or you need to hit with the tip of the prop shredder.
I’m not sure if anyone posted this combo yet, but I made a low-quality dante video of what i’m trying to make my corner BnB. It builds about 2.3 meter, does 766k off of one meter, and 1.02 mil off of a level 3, no assist or x-factor required.
Unfortunately, i’m in a rush for now so i can’t post the notation, gotta scurry off to UFGT7…
thats my bnb actually, midscreen I just use 1 acid rain, but yeah its pretty good. instant death on a lot of characters
1.1 million, on tron, 6-7 reps of acid rains in corner ending with million dollars, more with lvl 3
about 850k with 1-2 acid rain reps midscreen on all cast with DT. prob 780k+ without.
And people should really try to implement acid rain into their combos, at least in the corner if not mid screen. It builds alot of meter and adds alot of extra damage. Practice makes perfect
nice combo but you can definitely improvise it for a bit more damage. If you jump back after after volcano and do air play xx j.H xx hold forward xx S xx H xx S, this will allow you to do 3-4 reps of acid rain pretty consistent on all cast. End the rain with a S xx j. S, and continue your same combo, also add in a stinger before jetstream or 2nd beehive into million dollars. Guaranteed 830+k damage which is 100% on characters of 800k life.
Well im still wondering why the hell j.H, air play is missing. Ill get on again and try it on ryu and a few others. Otherwise, j.M,j.H works fine for me.
I might take you up on that add offer. Depending on how good you or others are hah. I really need someone to up my game in MVC. I hated 1 and 2 and bitched about it. MVC3 came out and had dante and deadpool and im like…ok now I NEED to like mvc. But the 3rd is definitely different than the others. Seems less broken, less spam spam spam assist assist assist, less “mags, storm, sent” every fucking match, and more skill. I’ve always been a sf2/3 natural. But damn…not dat MVC.
Ill scrub mop online and almost go perfect, then get perfected the next match by some other chaunce. The unreliability of your skill in this game is humorous…or rather the astronomical levels of skill on the scale where you think you’re great but really you’re just moppin scrubs.
What game are you playing? I might have to go return my copy of Marvel, I think I got a defective version
Today i hit on a jumping opponent:
qcb.L~(opponent flyes over my head)H(autocorrects), qcb.L~H, qcb.L~H
Best combo ever, i wonder if i could have gotten even more?
No way dude. DEFINITELY a significant difference between the first 2 and the 3rd. Yeah there’s gay senseless easymode spam…which is why I hated the first two. But there is more to this one than that. I can take Dante and style out a massive ass combo without breaking the game or using assists. I guess…maybe it’s just because of Dante I feel it’s different. Who knows.
But I’m seriously getting tired of all the Zero and tron spam. I know everyone says deal with it, stop crying, it’s how you play the game…but fuck that. It’s scrubplay.
Yea but it looks so pretty =0
Anyway, I get where ur coming from if ur actually playing a serious match.
I just made a few videos showing some characters that can’t start the DHC trick but can take advantage of DHCing into Devil Trigger to extend their combos, all transcripts are in the descriptions. Some of the pre-DHC combos are a bit lackluster as I don’t know these characters well enough, tbh I don’t even play Dante so maybe you guys could help expand the post DHC combos? Anyway, here they are:
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More to come.
you know these combos a short from amazing but practically they cant really be used in an actual game…awesome job though
ok so i have a problem with getting the AA charge shots to connect in the corner after a combo like m,h, stingerxxbold cancelxxvolcano, j.h, air play, j.h,h,S,charge shots…the person always flies over…how do you fix that?
also…is it just me or is shoryuken getting lazy? it’s like one update a day…what happened to the old shoryuken where we’d get like 10 articles a day?