I suggest we revamp our match up thread to include summary of opponent’s matchups in the beginning of the thread.
The longer this current thread goes, the more chaotic it will be to search for specific matchups.
Here is a good format that I would suggest:
http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181535
I believe spire has a 27 frame startup…so yeah…
I was considering it but realizing all the ignorance and shitty advice that gets tossed around here, I decided not to.
Yeah, I kind of wish Condor Dive had less recovery. It seems really weird that Ryu has next to no recovery on landing from an aerial hurricane kick but T. Hawk’s main getting move has somewhat noticeable recovery. I could understand if T. Hawk’s throws didn’t have a whiff animation, but they do, so…yeah.
Nah. I’ve been using Raging Slash exclusively and unfortunately Raging Slash doesn’t go nearly far enough (or catch cross-ups). It has the same apex problem as a Rising Tomahawk too, which means that Bison goes higher than anything Hawk can do, which is the primary problem. If he didn’t have a teleport, then chasing him to the corner would be a valid option (which is what I was doing). But he does, so…?
But as it is, it seems like he’s basically free to build meter with Devil’s Reverse ad infinitum because you can’t do shit about if he steers away from you (since it beats Condor Dive for free, which is how I died after losing some patience since I was able to “punish” it with Condor Dive a few times when nothing else was doing anything).
Oh well. Still less annoying than fighting Blanka or Balrog in general.
Alright, I’m gonna start one anyhows.
Gridman, I saw your livestream battles and noticed you’re playing against some great players. Your input here will be greatly appreciated.
Of course, all inputs are accepted but make sure that you’ve thoroughly tested it.
No blind CD/CS into SPD shenanigans. That will get you killed against great players.
thanks for taking the time to do the consolidated matchup thread, suncowiam. gridman, myself, and a few other people did actually put a number of helpful tips into this thread in the preceding pages. It’s not all complaints about blanka and spire.
I’ve been transferring the good points from this thread to the new thread. I will most likely make some mistakes so please do correct me.
Let’s get this going!
Instead you opted to just troll all the time and act like a condescending douche right?
Chasing him to a corner is still a valid strat imho. His teleport has long recovery animation so if he tries to teleport the opposite direction you can hit him easily.
As for his devils reverse, I usually guess what he does. If he headstomps, I dash under it and spd. If he devil reverse and steers it far away, I walk forward and force him closer to the corner. If he devil reverse and steers the followup to hit you, focus attack and cancel to dash and spd him. I never go for the TB
Yay^_^ Nice to finally see some positive attitudes. Hopefully there’ll be something here worth nicking in a few weeks. Anyway, quick question for anyone more talented than moi… yeah, everyone then. the whole “cross up with condor spire after knockdown” thing; will a dragon punch go the wrong way after this? Thanks.
this is a terrible matchup thead
The T. Hawk match-up thread is being reconstructed. I believe what you are looking for is here: http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=237213
Hey, guys! So I was fighting Blanka yesterday and I was COMPLETELY obliterated. I was really lucky not to get double perfected.
He seemed to have a response for everything I did. Does anyone has any idea how to face Blanka? Overall I think he is an annoying character to deal with, but for T. Hawk, really, it felt impossible.
im too lazy to read the whole thread, but i would say that t.hawk has more bad match ups then good ones.
I’m having problems with stopping Blanka ball and Honda headbutt consistently. Are you guys just mashing c.jab when you see it? Is it better to c.jab or c.mp? Does rh work?
I will update the first post with the matchup data soon everyone. Sorry about the wait. I’m at a business trip right now but I’ll see to it that I’ll update the first post within the next day or so
I have XBL.
There is very little lag however I have noticed that inputs dont feel as fluent online… hard to really explain.
I have to stop playing inconsistant like I would play good for lik 4-5 matches then start playing like crap.
I am in the process of testing Hawks Ultra 2 which I think may be better from a utility standpoint. So far I am working on on each character in Alphabetical order. I skipped abel because I have to do his trials but I started with Adon. (I may list them on this post? Dunno yet)
I noticed that Thawks LP is the answer to 80% of specials its kinda funny actually; Correct me if im incorrect.
Agreed on both statements. Way ahead of this testing idea , btw. Stupid video I made is taking forever rendering…
I think Hawk vs Blanka is about as bad as Zangief Vs Blanka…
c.jab when they’re close s.mp when they do it from afar.