chun is by far the easiest character to succeed with in XvSF. you don’t even need infinites. just bar.
eh i dont agree. if you are good at iad mixups, she is damn near unstoppable. but it requires some practice for most people. granted she can just turtle up and just whore low forward super. which does work well. but it doesnt apply much pressure to the opponent. and her launcher is pretty abusable since it beats almost everything heh
i think for ease of use and great results, sabretooth, and especially juggernaut provide very fast results, granted, juggernaut is a huge target, but his super armor allows you to sneak in random grabs into headcrush for retarded damage. and sabretooth;s jumping ability is over the top effective, especially any character midsize or larger. he can be a bitch to get away from.
well im not looking for great results either, i just dont want to pick a character that is simple to use but isn’t actually effective / or outright dies because their simplicity. I already picked Chunners cuz I know she’s braindead in this game so I don’t mind putting work into a secondary like Rogue or Cammy, though I do love me some Juggernaughts~
i dont know if that came out right.
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well like what magamands said, dogface is a freaking beast with cammy. very hard to hit and land damage on her. but i dont know of anyone else with a cammy like his, no one of his level. so take it with a grain of salt
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- rep me and i will either teach you 1 character in this game or i will evo using 1 character of your choice. if you learn 1 character by me, your chances of coming in 2nd increase 10 fold.
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Try Ryu. Easy combos that do big damage + Really easy infinite [s.mp -> f+mk]x25, you just gotta worry about blocking really.
Wow, this thread is really hot. Even Sabin jumped in the mix?! Wow.
Truth be told, the Capcom SF choices to play these days is pretty limited. I mean, you have CvS2, MvC2, 3s and ST. Really, those are the like legitimate games.
But you know, there’s hella fun games out there that are broken. Watch, if we throw MvC1 on for a while at EVO2k7, hella fools will line up to play. It’s FUN.
And in XvSF, you can play a shoto, similar to pure SF. You can dp shit, bait, space, all the goods. Then you can throw Mags on the team, and play Marvel style. Where else can you do that? In MvC2, you sure as hell aren’t going to play with OG SF strats in mind.
Like someone in this thread said, you CAN play XvSF like SF. You can’t do that with Cota. Or MSH. God forbid MSF, where the nerfing and silliness began. MvC1 is great, but it’s Marvel. I’m sure Sabin could win with Ryu, but I sure as hell coudln’t. i’d play him like I do in XvSF, a mix of VS and SF, and that doesn’t really work in MvC1. And with MvC2, well, you’re playing MvC2.
And the reason infinites are in a way good, is because it makes EVERY character good. Now I’m not saying that people should infinite from 99 seconds. But you know that if I launch you with Wolv to Sim, from Cammy to Storm, they can ALL do 30% combos. Throw in a reset and you have a FUN game.
See, the people that just run immediately to Mag/Storm and whore out tri-jumps don’t understand. This game isn’t MvC2. Storm and Mag rock in MvC2, whilst Ryu and co kinda stink. New schoolers overlook the whole rest of the cast, thinking they’re like MvC2, but they’re not. Prozac Nation mentioned this, how all the XvSF crew pretty much got neutered. If Ryu could do the same shit in MvC2, he’d get hella play.
The game is balanced because of bad scaling, and infinites. Look at Juggs vs Storm. Juggs shouldn’t win, but he CAN still win. A good Juggs can do it. A good Sim can do it. A good anyone can do it. And if you use a shitty character that can’t beat Storm (sorry Gief), then you can play a whole SECOND character!!
I mean, how much better can it get!?
This game is having a resurgence because it’s a fun fun fun fun game. Yesterday, me and NKI busted out Mario Kart on N64. Sure that game is hella old for a VIDEO GAME(1996), and yeah, we all know the shortcuts, and yeah sure there’s Mario Kart DS, but still Mario Kart 64 was HELLA fun. We had a blast. Everyone who played that game, reading this, knows exactly what I mean. If I rang your doorbell right now, and had my 64, we could play and have fun. That’s XvSF.
The learning curve, and infinites give everyone a chance. Think about this, if there were no ifinites, what would be the tiers? Double Storm would just runaway (even moreso then now), and do heavy damage combos for wins. Juggs would be sick. But what about the rest? Not saying you need infinites. But the engine that allows infinites, is why I can do two throws in a combo with Ryu into OTG. Why Charlie can do an air combo, throw you, OTG, and keep going. That shit is hella fun!!
Infintes are a choice players have to make. Capcom will never fix this. It’s not saying we should softban, but just decide how you want to play XvSF, and play with those people. In AZ, we played years with infinites being unofficially softbanned. That made us so much more well rounded than the infinite scrubs who only knew that. Take two players, one who knows how to play the game and CAN infinite, and some scrub who just infinites. Sure, scrub will win “some” games, but chances are the other player will know resets, tricks, setups, and have a whole developed game WHILE also knowing infinites.
XvSF is a blast. People should recognize that with the FFA Ranbats, EVO, Canada, etc. that XvSF has a ressurection. People can raise their nose at it and say, “that game is broken.” Well, me and the guys playing the broken game will be having hella fun at EVO while people stare at RCs in CvS2 on the big screen, or Chun vs Chun is 3S.
Not liking XvSF is shooting yourself in the foot as a SF player. This game is for ALL SF players. Marvel players can play vs Alpha 2 players. What otehr game can you get this in? I mean, for god sakes, Yipes can play this game. But so can James Chen. Where else does that happen? Even if this game just stays the fun black sheep of SF, it still should get play. Why not? It’s fun.
Everyone should get this game, read James Chen’s very comprehensive FAQ on Gamefaqs. Start the game, look at the character select screen, pick charaters you like. Characters you identofy with. You are not bound with tiers in this game. You can win with practically anyone. Learn a character. Sure learn his/her infinite, but also learn fun flashy combos. Fancy stuff. And when you’re friend comes over, and your’e sick of MvC2/3S/CvS2, pop this game on and have fun, try to show off, and challenge your brain. Any SF player, anyone that can throw a fireball can play this game.
It’s exactly what Capcom fighting games should be. It’s what HF was. Every character is good, and with ifinites, EVERY character can win.
Is the game Competitive?
Yes.
Is the game Playable?
Yes.
Is the game competitively playable?
Well, that depends on how you want to play.
-Vix
Which is the official version of xsf that is used in events?
FMJ,
The official version would be Version 2.
At both EVO2k5 and 2k6, we played on Supergun. 2k5 was on Cigarbob’s mammoth sticks. Then in 2k6, I used my own OG Cigarbob sticks.
We *always *used Version 2.
Saturn is damn near perfect but it’s Version 3, which is not the Version that the United States received as a whole.
DOG FACE YOU ARE MY HEROE
So for those nah sayers. Xvsf is on the rise and yes it will ALWAYS stay as a side tourney and nothing more. But thats good enough for me. I’m fine with a “big” xvsf oturney only getting 32 peeps. It’s fine by me. See yall at EV— maybe…
vic: i first would just like to say I LOVE YOU!
2nd, that was a well typed post. andi actually agree with it all. i guess in the end, its just what you prefer. i think thats the reason i fell out of xsf, i loved the way we always played back in AZ. i never got bored. then i didnt play as much (mainly cuz you left), then all these infinite fools come in and wax me with scrubby infinites. cant stand that in casual, but it is what it is. i still think the og AZ crew and xsf was some of the most fun times i had with fighting games with my homies, like you.
either way, ima represent the game til i die, even if i shun certain aspects of the game, even if i dont play anymore. maybe ill have some tricks up my sleeve for next evo. who knows? i can be crafty at times =)
vic, gimme a call sometime buddy!
vic IS xmvsf
Hmmm…I’ll take the bait.
pos rep
And I’ll want to learn Cyclops.
EDIT - I can’t give you rep for some reason. So, you’ll still teach me, right?
Why ask him when I’m the guy with almost 200 xvsf match/combo/strat/rnadomness on youtube?
I feel like the lucky girl at prom night. Two guys fighting for my love. You just need to get on AIM more. Life sucks for the both of us. Accursed adulthood.
Work OWNS the soul!
tsk tsk, you have to rep more people before you can rerep me. i wonder when you gave me the neg rep.
cyclops eh? you made a good choice because hes my 2nd best character. you wont be disappointed once i receive the rep saying “your the best DS, from DS”
I Am The Greatest Cyclops Player Ever!!!
who has won 1 10man tourney in his career