Even during SBO’09 tourney VF talk was almost non-existent on Japanese 2ch channel compare to other big fighting games in Japan(Tekken, GG, SF etc…).
Also Famitsu&Arcadia arcade ranking showing bad result for VF.
Not really. VF5/VF5R haven’t been out of the top ten for any month from what I remember. Compared to VF4 it’s down in popularity but it’s certainly not dying. How is always being in the top ten a bad result? Especially when Sega closed over 100 arcades and Namco closed over 100 arcades last year (meaning the arcade scene is dying overall in Japan).
And from what I’ve heard the way that Arcadia samples arcades for their monthly rankings is flawed. They pick arcades that don’t stock up on more expensive machines (like SFIV and VF5R) so you see games like 3S higher on the chart than they might be in other arcades.
VF is popular in Japan…it’s everywhere else that’s it’s almost dead.
This is a sad truth. :shake:
agreed. it’s a shame, too, because VF’s a game that’s really rewarding to those that take the time to get good at it.
people always say that, and I don’t doubt it, but how many people in america have reached that level in VF? one? two?
vf has an awesome propaganda machine working for it in america. i often wonder how that developed (i have my own ideas, just sayin)
There are tons of good international VF players. Japan is no more dominant in VF than they are in any other game like 3S or Guilty Gear or whatever. How many Super Turbo players outside of Japan are on the same level as a YuuVega or Otochun? None.
No idea what the OP is trying to say here but a lot of the talking up VF gets 'round these parts comes from people who won’t actually play (even online) or post on VFDC, which implies to me that they don’t really have much interesting to say about the game. My point is that there is no end to the praise for the game but at the end of the day it’s all talk. No one I know of from the US has reached Japanese level in VF without extensive time in Japan playing the top people.
It’s a game where people talk about how great it is but don’t play it. It is the same thing for Garou and VS.
With all this “love” for VF in the US, you would think that there would be a healthy scene. That unfortunately is not the case.
Well then whos going to teach me VF?
Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution had a tutorial mode that taught EVERY aspect of the game. And VirtuaFighter.com is the best fighting game specific website around, it has full combo lists, glossary, wiki, frames, everything.
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Well, Graham Wolfe (claw), Alex Valle (o.Sagat), and Mike Watson (Ryu) all have tourney wins against Otochun. And Otochun has beaten Seth Killian (Chun Li) and John Choi (o.Sagat). So from all the evidence (the 2000 USA-Japan event where US players were handicapped with JP controls and SBO 07 where Graham and Otochun both used ST characters), the US is still leading Otochun 3-2.
And Yuu Vega lost to Choi and Valle but beat Seth and Watson. So that’s 2-2.
The 1-match setting with uneven matchups probably doesn’t say much but it does show top level JP players haven’t performed incredibly well against top level US players in a tournament setting. However, ST definitely seems to the exception to the rule if we go by tourney results for other games.
There are quite a few really good players in the US. Not a lot but that’s because the scene itself is small.
let him keep dick riding the japs. USA bitch!
VF4 training mode is GOD LIKE. Why can’t more games implement a training mode like that?
BUNBUNMARU!!!
VF is not that popular in Japan. Only the core VF players still play, there is almost no new blood from what I hear, and that includes people that play other games and play VF on the side, there is almost none of that. There is too much stuff to get past and learn when a new player vs an experienced player in Japan nowadays.
From what I gather at VFDC, the scene is stuck in Japan (the game is played, but only by the same people, no one new) and dying everywhere else. I love VF as my favorite fighting game franchise, but unfortunately I’ve never had local competition to practice with so instead I played Tekken and more recently STHDR as well. No X360 means no VF5Online for me. 
My only hope was ‘R’, but I gave up on that since the FB campaign.
unfortunately
Keep in mind those who talk about it in forums only make up a small part of the VF scene. May get tons of praise but not many play it to such a hardcore levels
Ganelon: I wouldn’t really say that’s true anymore though. Those wins were awhile ago, and vanilla ST is dead in the US anymore. HDR still has a few specialists like Afrolegends & Thelo, but the OGs you mentioned are all on the SF4 bandwagon now. I remember brian saying most of the players at X-Mania were better than anyone in the US, and I can easily believe that.
Dandy: I had actually noticed something similar when I asked myself why I wouldn’t play stuff like IaMP or Jojo’s even though I like both games. They’re just way too much effort for side games, and VF is a side game here so the same thing applies. I knew SF4 was going to kill a lot of these games, which is why I’ve moved from RB2/WHP to E-Z mode Jackie Chan.
im not sure but when is VF6 coming out