Is there STILL not a Dragon Ball thread? If so

Looks cool tho. But then non-canon Dragon Ball media went ham and we started getting abominations like SSJ3 Broly

It would look cooler if they still had eyebrows lol.

It would look cooler if it didn’t age every character like 40 years

ssj3 gotenks looks like a 50 year old midget

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Yea part of that is because he has no fucking eyebrows. SSJ3 looks like some unga bunga cave man shit lol.

I don’t mind the lack of eyebrows so much as the fact that in both non-canonical SSJ3 and SSJ4 characters literally all look fucking same, e.g. facial features

Yea. They all lose their eyebrows, have protruding skulls like SSJ3 literally warps their facial structure. SSJ3 Goku doesn’t look like Goku at all.

4 just looks dumb as hell no matter what.

Easy explanation: They ain’t feel like drawing and animating all that damn hair :joy:

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4 looks neat but the way they went with how the fur perfectly wraps around the biceps is weird, plus Goku lierally regrew it every time he went out and into the form

The artificial reappearance of the tail despite them being cut or pulled out a long time ago did not make any sense

And that’s not to mention the fac that it should have never been called Super Saiyan 4. Something like Super Saiyan Primal would work much better
I do hope it sorta makes it into the after canon seeing what angered Broly was like - even had exactly similar eyes like SSJ4 Goku, and some descriptions say “power of the great ape in human form”

Same reason why Cell was gone in animation ever since GT lol

Didn’t event think about Cell, yeah him too. Probably also why he wasn’t in the ToP too, and another reason Freiza was chosen instead.

Out of the villains, Cell was probably the one most likely to gel with the Z Warriors tho, roast game aside

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Stop the hate. SSJ3 Goku best Goku. Looks super cool.

Given how they retcon Freeza’s battling skills, Cell training 2 days with Whis would have reached Gogeta tier

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SSJ3 is trash. It looks silly and it didn’t even finish the arcs’ villain. Only upside is it isn’t Furcoat Mascara Four…SSJ4

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Is it really a retcon if Frieza was just naturally that strong in his Z saga and just never bothered raising his power level through training like everybody else has?

Well…to be fair boh times Goku used SSJ3 vs Buu was to buy time for other characters, not to destroy him. Frankly I’m not even sure if Goku would be able to

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“They didn’t feel like watching the tournament.”

Problem solved.
:man_shrugging:

They don’t tho, Frieza in Namek was just flexing that his power was some natural stuff that he almost never got to use.

It’s not a stretch to believe he didn’t bother training since he was already that strong anyway. :man_shrugging:

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Goku was lucky kid buu form was a nerf

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Freeza clearly stated he never trained because he had no need to with him being a mutant prodigy, but after having his ass handed to him numerous times he decided to get better. It is a bit ridiculous how far he jumped in a few months definitely tho. Dude went from being outclassed by SSJ to surpassing blue lol (albeit he didn’t have the stamina to hold it)

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Freeza got a Goku type power up. He went from a base power level of 8000 to 150 million from his fight with Vegeta/Nappa to his fight with Freeza.

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I straight up think either like some here have stated that SSJ3 just didn’t get the best reception so they ditched it or Toriyama found drawing it too much so he and his crew were like ‘Fuck it, back to basics’ hence all power ups are color or effect based since Gotenks outside of non canon stuff.

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I’m going with the second explanation, Toriyama be lazy sometimes :joy:

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SSJ3 is just a waste. Uses up mad energy for zero results. Glad it’s been phased out lol.

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I mourn the loss of monkey tails and the giant ape power ups and tail weakness.