no way.
i dont think yamcha could take frieza either
he went out like a little bitch to android 16
nah its piccolo then krillenâŚgokus usually eating a fat steak to be bothered by it.
Yeah, thatâs what I was going to say. Anyone thatâs Yamacha or below him gets absolutely raped by Freeza.
I would say that Krillin is probably close to Freezaâs strength, but hasnât surpassed it, especially since we know that heâs a lot weaker than his wife, even into GT. He never really seems to get stronger after Cell Saga (just like Yamcha and co).
And, yeah, gay Gohan > anyone by the end of DBZ when it comes to non-SSJ. Hell, even then heâs probably stronger everyone including that outside of the two fused guys and even then heâs probably as strong as Gotenks.
you seriously believe when goku vs Uub fight was happening gohan was still stronger? 
but goku and vegeta were a tie (according to everyone but me) when the androids showed up, vegeta got owned for free by one. so that would mean 18 was stronger than goku even after goku trained for years.
so 18>>>>>>>>frieza for free
krillin + the two saiyan kids killed brolly during the buu saga time, if thats any indication 
Frieza may have been a joke towards the end of DBZ to anybody with any reasonable fighting skill(Even if you werenât Goku and Vegeta tier level fighters).
I still wouldnât go as far as to say that Videl was stronger than Final Frieza.
I HIGHLY doubt sheâs as strong as a Super Saiyan. Sheâd have to be at least at Super Saiyan level to defeat Frieza.
Videlâs strong, but I donât take her that seriously.
Guys with natural fighting ability like Piccolo and Tien took years to reach up to that level. Even then, such as in Piccoloâs case that required him merging with Nail, and Kami.
Videlâs strong for a human, but I wouldnât put her at Z Fighter level. I donât even think she learned how to fire Ki blasts(Donât quote me on that though). Gohan taught her how to fly, and that was all the effort needed to get into her panties.
maybe im crazy but i swear she show some form of super strength/energy strength in the final dbz movie where gohan and her where they were costumed up.
To the people who are saying Tien/Krillin are stronger than Final Freeza: How?!
Think about everything Goku had to do in order to beat Freeza. Even just starting at the end of DB, he trained with Kami, got a natural powerup after getting killed in the Raditz fight, trained with Kaio, powerup after Vegeta fight, trained in 100x gravity, powerup after the Ginyu Fight, and he STILL needed to go SSJ (which was a huge dealâŚat the time anyway) in order to be stronger than Freeza.
The last formal training the humans had was the Kaio training. Kaio training only put Goku at Saiya-jin Saga Vegeta level, how would it make the humans any stronger than that? With all their personal training, Iâd put them at Captain Ginyu level, but they donât have the Saiyajin Power-up benefit nor the beefyness of a SSJ transformation. Even if they âheld their ownâ against Non-Perfect Cell or Cell Juniors or whatever, that doesnât make them Freeza-level.
Freeza is only a joke because the story arcs after him had to try and one-up him, and it started getting out of hand. The only characters who make him look weak are the villains after him, the ones who go blond, and Piccolo.
And I would say SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan.
^ As per usual, I agree with Azrael.
Itâs not like Uub was nearly as strong as Kid Buu. Hell, he probably wasnât even Freiza level considering the way that Goku was handling him in normal form IIRC.
For the record, I donât think that Tien could completely take Final Form Freeza either despite his showing with Cell. Didnât he take Cell by surprise and use his strongest attackâŚand all it did was keep Cell at bay?
YeahâŚstrong, but basically, anyone that isnât a Saiyan isnât âstrong enoughâ.
oh yeah 18 is only part android so sheâs the strongest human
i though uub was a strong as kid buu but just couldnt tap into it.
^ He is and youâre right. Thatâs what I was getting at.
Well, yeah, but she doesnât count. She wasnât originally human.
Otherwise, we would be counting Uub as the strongest human since heâs the reincarnation of Buu, who is stronger than her by far (even if itâs only potential-wise).
Arenât we only counting Z-fighters?
Youâre debating power levels? What is this? A DBZ fansite, circa 1998? PlanetNamek.com or some shit?
weâre only counting actual humansâŚbut i guess we kinda just uncounciously agreed on z fighters since tien isnt human.
goodmourning: haha i used to fucking live on that site. planetnamek.com was my shit in the 7th grade.
@ Azrael
IIRC several of the Z-Fighters die, and they all decide to stay behind and train on King Kaiâs planet.
I donât find it that improbable that after a DECADE or more after Friezaâs defeat that 1 or 2 of the fighters that werenât born with Saiyan blood in them, became as strong as Frieza after a decade or more of training.
Itâs only fair when you have 8 year old Trunks, and 7 year old Goten able to roll Frieza without a problem at their young age, all because they have Saiyan blood.
Itâs a nice compromise for Tien and Krillin(Arguably IMO). That would only be fair since Vegeta and the other Saiyans could probably fight 500 Friezaâs and not get tired.
Thatâs only fair.
If Tien was only around Ginyu level, there would be no way in hell that he would be able to contain Super Cell for as long as he did.
(BTW I am aware that I probably am spelling Saiyan all fucked up).
youâve all seen the difference in power, if tien wasnt anywhere near strong enough it would of done NOTHING to cell, you know what its like for someone weaker to be ki blasting a strong foe.
i seriously believe krillin can beat frieza, example of a power boost yeh?
vegeta got MAN HANDLED by one of the ginyu force, a few eps later after tien got taught by king kai, tien man handled TWO members by himself
when power grows in this anime it really grows
look at goku after he got fatally wounded on namek, he came out strongth enough to give 4th form frieza a bruise on his face. his power level was at 180.000 before he got injured, and he came out and hurt somebody whos 2ND form was over a MILLION
^ Itâs a manga first. Wasnât that part filler?
Iâm pretty sure that Tien is human.
He just has the third eye thing as a reference to Saiyuki or so Iâve been told IIRC.
Tien did alright when he fought trunks in the bojack movie till trunks went SS.
which part? :wonder:
oh one person said he was a demi god and another said he was actually an alien.
those thrd eye people from my knowledge (and old 3x3 eyes memories) three eyeâd peeps arenât human, had this discussion before with someone on here but they were certain that he was human for some reason