Is the game really scrubby? I don't think so

Marn’s just mad he wasn’t #1 right out of the gate. It’s a new game and you’re not going to be the best week 1 just because you have a stake in the fighting game community.

Making generalizations about the game to justify it is just immature and I agree I think Marn is bad rep for this community.

He won the first tournament.

So…

This quote defines my opinion of Marn straight down to the nose. He’s an amazing player but Jesus is it hard trying to respect the guy when he’s complaining all the damn time.

And when he lost he gets all wah wah.

i hate how everyone has quick recovery frames its so hard to launch and punish someone who button mashes and how quick priority is for beam supers

Yeah, from all that TvC playing.

i love the ‘random’ argument, very few players press buttons by accident. random hail is the greatest misnomer of the youth these days.

In fighting games, everything you do affect the way the game is played, and the way you do it affects it as well. Chess however is more comparable to an RTS or and RPG becuase the way you do something does not affect anything at all, it is what you do in chess, not how you do it, unlike fighting games. Execution has not a single thing to do with chess, at all.

In fact, this is one of the most ignorant and misused analogy that I have ever seen. The reasoning means that I can compare chess to anything. Hell, even FPS is more like chess then fighting games.

I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if you’re really that closed minded

Making assumptions about someone’s cognitive process to dismiss his (fair)criticisms of the game is just immature and derpy.

:rofl: you’re absolutely right, fighting games are more like Go but because 2D games are quite static it turns into a hybrid of chess and Go

one thing you are wrong about though is the fact that you can compare chess to anything, if you’re any good at chess that is.

Yup.
X-Factor + a million hour combo window.

At first I couldn’t do a simple air combo in MvC3 because I was pushing the buttons too fast.

Marn is an assclown who at one point claimed to be part of a gang (WTF happened to that video guys? It was on YT and now it’s private, someone must have saved a copy, if you have it upload it to Nico video or Blip).

There’s a lot of mad scrubs in here.

Well if it is this scrubby, we will see the familiar faces knocked out very early at EVO.
If it isn’t ‘that scrubby’, you will probably see familiar names sprinkled with new blood, akin to SSF4 EVO 2010.

Anyhow, if people wish to think that a scrub (in the literal sense) can pick up and place top 8 at EVO, then I guarantee we won’t see any more EVOs this game will be featured at. /rant

This

Marn is a silly little fellow, but I think he’s right. Players who play in a pattern but execute serviceably will do just fine in mvc3 and always be competitive. In sf games that isn’t the case.

I can be good in any game day 1, but memorizing crap differs depending on which game. If these jack offs are so pro why are they even complaining?

The game does help scrubby players think they are good. Its just a fact.

I haven’t seen any good justification as to why this is a bad thing. Why would we want newcomers to be put off on a game that might be too technical for them from the get go? Don’t we want this scene to grow? And if we were truly the more experienced ones, wouldn’t we be able to put that scrubby player in his place, or are you just going to say now that this game is random enough that even a day-1 player has just enough chance as a 10 year vet to make it big?

A lot of people making statements like “anyone can be good at this game” but no real reason to say why it’s such a bad thing. Elitism at its best I guess.

Heh, it’s more like “Old Man syndrome”, actually. Not that I don’t absolutely love this game, but I find myself particularly salty when some new, young gamer gets the best of me. Lol Old dog’s pride.

That’s probably all it is. The way Marn was talking in the CrossCounterTV Ep that was recently put up, the vibe that I got was that he didn’t fancy the game much because “anybody” could win rather than just the usual top hats that always do, which, kind of made me think that the top guys don’t want to lose to anyone new because, well, they’re the tops. New guys should bow before them. But now that Sentinel is an almighty powerhouse and things are “easier” in this game, anyone winning is possible and that’s a little disheartening/annoying to them, perhaps. At least that’s the read I got from it.

I don’t think the game sucks by far, but I can understand why those guys might feel the way they do. Old Kings don’t like to be challenged by new princes. “They should know their place.” The barriers that clearly defined the lines have now been blurred and damn near anything’s possible.

Considering that some of us were beating games like Contra Hard Corps at age 10 (compared to games these days), I could definitely see why Marn’s saying this and where he’s coming from. Lol. Old man syndrome all day.

Me too. I couldn’t figure out how to get the timing down for a few things. Then I switched my inputs to “retarded slow” and started hitting things consistently. lol.