Is Sonic hot garbage?

lol nice try zan…but if that’s what it’s really gonna be called then whatever. This interests me…with the whole instead of shielding first then grab just going into the grab…could be used as a in close fake out. I’ll have to experiment with it…

With this discovery though…you can force someone to wake up when you dash towards them and do a quick forward b cancel to make the person go ‘OH SHIT! I gotta wake up!’.

indeed…only a reeeeal douche bag would be such a sore loser. Especially with the hedgehog treating his characters as if they were nothing but road pavement and shit. =D

I’m curious as to what you Sonic players think of the Sonic vs G&W matchup. What do you do to fight this one and how much enjoyment do you get out of it, relatively?

dunno, never fought him as Sonic. but I’m guessing that if most GWs use that key drop thing, Sonic would whoop his 2-D ass

G&W has HUGE buffs compared to his Melee self, F-Smash, D-Smash can KILL YOU at relitivley low percentages. Key Drop stops Sonic from trying to pursue him in the air, his air game and recovery have been strengthend ALOT since melee. Only thing you can do is get his damage high and hope you nail him with a F-Smash or Bair =/

not tryin to be an asshole at all when I say this but… isn’t that the general sonic strategy

edit: k apparently you dumbasses can’t scroll down.

edit: what the HELL. I just noticed all the recent neg rep I got was on one post (THIS post). why are so many people taking offense to that? I wasn’t being mean and I even stated that I wasn’t trying to be mean about it. I don’t know how anyone here or anyone anywhere else plays Sonic, but his description is EXACTLY how I play him: build up damage and nail enemies with an F-smash or B-air. I don’t care much for rep, but the comments (especially the one Lobelia left), were pretty unsettling. I just don’t get it. if I’m gonna get neg rep then I’d at least prefer getting it for something that was OFFENSIVE

:l This thread sickens me. But I care not since I hate playing Sonic in brawl.

On a different note, has anyone tried playing high gravity Brawl with Sonic? I’ve been having lots of fun with him in this setting than I will ever have with him in a normal brawl. His recovery is basically shot but the ability to drop springs and have some sort of follow up is really nice. His edgeguarding tactics are very fun but his up+B glitch is much more noticeable in high gravity. He can be easily gimped and he has some risky tactics but I have crazy fun with him.

awwwww…:frowning: he’s not that bad…what are we saying that sickens you so?

I was just saying I don’t like how he plays. I also hate playing as Toon Link and he definitely isn’t a bad character.

least someone who’s totally unbiased thinks Sonic’s alright

eh…I’ve never touched toon link unless I needed too (get his trophies, challenges, etc). I’ve also never really touched marth or ike…did mess with metaknight just for fun but decided he wasn’t for me. I think it’s cause my personality generally tries to stay away from characters who beast too much.

Just got in a 1 on 1 w/ shin ace with my G&W and it was just as annoying as when I play vs sonichuman. This is the match as far as I can tell but I’m probably limited by skill requirements. 1. G&W is a decent character with attacks that are capable of killing his opponent. 2. Sonic does not possess what we traditionally refer to in the fighting game community as MOVES!!!.
3. G&W has one weakness and that is his lack of a far range projectile or fast advancing move. These 3 facts conspire to produce a match-up that entails at least 10 minutes of game time looking at each other from fullscreen. The match is a gamble whereby the outcome is ultimately determined by whether or not sufficient items appear for Sonic to acquire previously mentioned MOVES.

Sonic can fight G&W with or without items on…but we’ve already got into this argument countless times so I’m not even gonna start on it. Someone else fight this match up and say what you think about it.

? where are you getting this? Sonic has plenty of moves, and G&W has another weakness: excessive lag on F-air and B-air

edit: what the HELL. I just noticed all the recent neg rep I got was on one post. why are so many people taking offense to that? I wasn’t being mean and I even stated that I wasn’t trying to be mean about it. I don’t know how anyone here or anyone anywhere else plays Sonic, but his description is EXACTLY how I play him: build up damage and nail enemies with an F-smash or B-air. I don’t care much for rep, but the comments (especially the one Lobelia left), were pretty unsettling. I just don’t get it. if I’m gonna get neg rep then I’d at least prefer getting it for something that was OFFENSIVE

btw, I did this matchup the other day. to my knowledge, Sonic has a good chance as long as he can stay close. Even Ganondorf has things he can use vs key dropping & the 2 aerials, which was pretty damn surprising to me

IMO, sonic is kinda like Q in SF3rd Strike. Sure he has somekind of advantage…but lets face it, against good players… not likely:looney:

…I’m actually really starting to think that there’s something against him even though I’m trying not to think that way. Especially upon seeing sonic in BOTTOM TIER on someone’s list. I’m just gonna try my best to stay out of it and keep playing like I usually do…I’m gonna enjoy it when I’m not fighting someone who isn’t a metaknight, pit, ike, or wario player and they’re all like…‘I should be able to win this match cause he’s bottom tier!’ and then I make them weep like lil babies…=D

lol comparing Sonic to Q? No fucking way

My consistently top 3 placing friend Lucky would think differently…

And Game & Watch’s fair and bair are not that laggy. They have just about the best priority in the game if used correctly. If you want quicker start up time in the air you’re supposed to use nair or up b.

when I said they’re laggy, I was referring to their landing lag. both the landing lag of F-air and B-air are VERY laggy. also, I may be wrong, but I don’t think N-air has as much safeness as either of those.

edit: holy shit just got done watching that video. didn’t know that Bup while on ledge could edge guard so well. excellent. Lucky fights pretty well

wow, i really don’t think thats even close kind of comparison.

Sonic (like everyone else has been talking about) has some really nice gimmicks and pokes. I wont be baited by this though.

Topic title should be changed btw. To sonic is too fast or some shit.

I had already showed dislike for the title for this thread from the beginning and how this is the ‘official’ sonic thread now…but whatever ya know?

Wow…Lucky’s Sonic has evolved since last time I’ve seen his…o.o…I must find more vids of him. He does a few things that I don’t do in my game…and he looks to have gotten completely used to the way how he moves…more so than Me or anyone else I’ve played so far. I wonder if he’s found anything to do in his bad matchups yet.