yeah but let’s say you go against a projectile heavy team what can zangief/hugo do?
Also I was going to pose the question…
If giefs ultra is 360 instead of a 720 does that mean we will all be able to vangief walking ultra that shit lol
You go back to your sf4 mindset and play patient as hell
can’t be patient when eating fireballs…
Meter’s not a rare resource in this game. Lariat, jump or charge-cancel until you get within EX GH range and see if they’ll still throw fireballs. 
Then you aren’t very familiar with being patient in Street Fighter.
Anyway, I think Gief’s high health will be a big factor in this game. Does anyone know What he is compared to say Ryu and some of the smaller characters?
Think I heard Seth on stream say he has 1150. Hugo has most life in game at 1200 I believe.
Hugo has more than Zangief? That match-up is not going to be fun.
It’ll be fun learning it though, I think.
welcome to using gief.
if you have no patients gief or hugo is gonna be a tough life for you.
i believe that gief will still win this matchup, but we will see.
giefs lariat is still going to make it a nightmare to cross him up just like in the sf4 series. a lot of the tekken cast has rekka style attacks that move you into giefs kitchen. i would imagine that tekken players are going to learn very quick that gief is a pain in the ass to play against.
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this is the way we are going to want to be using gief. stand at that range and punish with strings. a good tag partner is going to be someone who you can put nasty damage off of tag with. hugo, king, marduk ect will not be bad choices at all for secondary.
im hella excited to use gief and see who he works well with.
I’m used to Zangief from The SF4 Series it’s just sometimes it was hard to be patient(especially with a case like akuma…)and you were more likely to lose your mind than make any ground
Is there any word on what super easy input does to the spd motion? Could be crazy if you can more easily punish things on reaction with spd or whatever.
I was thinking this too. All of Gief’s worst matchups involve projectile characters, and none of the Tekken cast have them. He is going to be a serious pain for them…
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Haven’t watched this yet myself but it’s probably interesting.
Rise Of The Red Cyclone?
Oh this is the video where someone jumps out of the Super apparently after the flash at around 4:55. They say that you can do that with Zangief’s Super but not Raging Demon? And Akuma also has Misogi for combos?
Does anyone have the game early to test?
one reason i would play gief over hugo is that i wasn’t that good with hugo in 3SOE and Gief’s been my main in SF4 And AE
not to mention i like the traditional grappler(Grab the crap out of you!)so hugo’s pathetic range on his grab doesn’t really suit me that well
although the rumors that the lariat can’t evade projectiles has me worried and the fact that you can just jump out of his super is also something that makes me think twice about using him
Not sure about Quick Lariat but Double Lariat definitely goes through them. I’ve seen KKK Lariat getting hit but never going through them which is a bit worrying considering how slow the recovery is on the PPP one.
Anyway here’s the frame right after the Super flash:
Uh, how’d he jump out of that? What’s the use of this Super apart from risking two bars?
What I’m guessing is that he was holding up right before the Super and so the whiff animation played, otherwise it would have gone into the animation. At least, that’s what I’m guessing/hoping. The alternative is a bit nutty, no? o_O
you got me…why does capcom hate zangief?
I don’t think they do, I just don’t think they’re quite on the mark on regards to balancing him. Look at his EX GH nerf for AE.
They punished players for becoming reliant on it rather than SPDs despite creating that environment themselves. o_O
But anyway, I don’t suppose anyone has the SFxT bible yet or the game itself to test this out? There must be something positive about this Super considering how badly it fits into the flow of the game.
I probably sound really negative but I’m still hyped for gief in this.
I don’t wanna be forced to play hugo(not that i don’t like him it’s just his grab range sucks…i wanna make people fear getting in close due to the grab)