Patch notes:
No fun allowed.
eh…i cant really complain about that…
that really dont bother me. and thats understandable
This may already be known, but…
I “discovered” that you can switch cancel a Green Hand if you hit a fireball with it. And (optionally) you can press a button during your partners run-in to make them NOT run all the way to your opponent.
May not be that helpful, but ya never know.
I’m a new Gief player, and I’m having trouble using this great “anti-air” called lariat. For some reason it’s 90% of the time a straight kick to my face. I’ve actually started using the armor bear grab and cr.mp as my anti-air now.
P.S. Sorry for the noobness, just can’t afford a dental plan for my Gief.
Lariat is an amazing AA. Always use the PPP Lariat, more invincibility, 5frame startup, more damage. Always perform it from crouching and hit with the start of the move, not the spins. It doesn’t work well against most straight jumps and cross ups
I’m also a relative noob to using gief. Has lariat’s upper body invul been tweaked in this vs 4? It does seem that he’s maybe got a hurtbox right on his round little head. Though I’m probably just starting it too early, not used to the timing quite yet.
Has anyone got any preferred gem setups for him? I like to have a battery partner with 3 meter gems so that he’s always got ex greenhand/ex spd to help shut down tekken characters with their gappy strings. At the moment I’m torn between running him mainly with speed boosts or sticking solely fortitude gems on him, giving him effectively an extra 300 health. I’ve certainly found that the fortitude is really useful in matches against zoners. I also thought I’d try him out with the new 1/4 bar autoblock, and it’s exactly as filthy and broken as you’d imagine. A gief who can walk forwards without fear is a scary gief indeed.
My main issue is that he can be really hard to tag out safely, has anyone got any suggestions for that?
Zangief has better a Beast of a hitbox for PPP lariat in front of him. but behind him lacking. so WHEN EVER you see someone jumping behind you or doing a cross up tatsu just block.
Try to press PPP LATEST POSSIBLE.
Cross UP try to block specially against Kazuya and Guile(PPP also works but not 100%)
@mayor mike: if you want to counter the gappy tekken strings, use the PPP. A lot of the strings are interuptable with it. Don’t even have to have the meter. Safe it for Super, Switches from Lariat or for your partner. Super is SO good in SFxT. Punishes so so much. Love it. Always make them scared of it.
Gems? I use Meter, Meter, Life. That’s it. The rest is quite useless. Not really bothered about it anyway. 
@Greatness: have you got some videos? Your Gief sounds solid. Always like to get more input, mine is still very scrubby 
A lot of the time I wasn’t doing it from the crouch position for the aa lariat, this is probably the reason. Great help guys, i’ll tweak my game tonight!
Kinda stupid here but tonight i found out im Rank 4 in xboxlive in !!! yay a very first for me. yay my zangief brethern
Match Videos!
aye i really need to.anyone know ways on how people can see me and my matches. i ask because i have never done anything like that. i have a camera should i record some videos of me playing and upload it guys??
Greatness wrote : "Zangief has better a Beast of a hitbox for PPP lariat in front of him. but behind him lacking. so WHEN EVER you see someone jumping behind you or doing a cross up tatsu just block. "
Just do a autocorrect lariat -_- You can beat Kens tatsu by doing late laraits. As if you where doing shoryukens on crossups. Easy!
ill try it i have been starting to notice that auto correct lariat works vs ken. just that i have been punish so much from trying that i find it better to just block it. and is your success rate 100% vs kens? if so id love to see a video on the exact timing so i can get it down better. thanks for the tip.
@Greatness: yeah, try that. Quality won’t be great but it’s better than nothing.
I also only have a cam. Need to get a DVR. Wanna record a few Gief/Kaz EWGF team combos.
Greatness, I always eat one before I change my timing. It feels like the tatsu makes the jump take more time before hitting gief, so when I press to early I get hit when I lose my invincibility. It often trades, but thats a rEALLY good thing. You geta full combo of off it. I think maybe even you can get a headbut, s.mp s.mp s.mk s.rh, for now Ive only done s.mp s.mp s.mk s.rh. Its so good.
I think I am going to look for a way to retime my lariats so that I will get more trades of jumpins. Right now im just beating shit clean, and not getting any more dmg from it that Lariat. If I can manage to find a timing that makes me trade with most chara, we are talkign serious damage on bad decicions. Oh well, good players really dont jump on gief though 
What I do have problems with is Lariatting Rufus jump RH and Bison jump MP. C.mp beats them though.!.
I also find that Zangief c.hp has insane range, and a good hitbox. Not very usefull because of recovery though!
Also greatnes, Ryu overhead tag gief, s.mp s. mp s.mp XX launch or s.mp s.mp S.hp(range specific) or the safest s.mp s.hp XX launch, back to ryu c.hp hado dash c.hp hard tatsu Tag Gief s.mp s.mp s.mp LARIAT in the corner is far from bad 
for ryus overhead the best combo i can do is Ryu> Overhead> Zangief>Close St.Hp> St.LK> St.Mp> St.Hp> Launch. > Ryu > Cr.Hp> Dragon punch if your ryu as health or donkey kick if hes low.
and i got another really damageing combo i got is Ryu> Draonpunch> Tagout > Zangief > St.Mp > St.Mp > St.mk > St.Hk > t > Ryu > Cr.Mk > Hard dragon punch
this one does 500damage easy. and think of how many times you have gotten a dragon punch from ryu. the tricky thing is you gotta hit the st.mp early as possabel.
what do you think? if i have posted this already forgive me
Hmm, s.hp is 4frame startup? I didnt know 
Yeah I do the rayu DP tag gief s.mp s.mp s.mk s.rh, free dmg from an anti air. And also if I want ryu back Il do, c.mk s.mk XX lariat TAG ryu c.hp hado dash c.hp XX hard tatsu etc. But yeah. Il try with s.hp instead :eek: ^^ TY