Im convinced now that when u roll u get hit and the ending animation sometimes. My friend gets really mad when this happens and sometimes with me as well. Other than poking to get a hitconfirm i do st.lk etc into launch to bring my Nina back in or combo into EX GH ending with lariat PPP or KKK wat are the set-ups u can do after those…
THX 4 the tip, i’m gonna play later in a sfxt Tournament Final and i’ll face an guile zoning guy.
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I’m not pro player or something like, i’m so nervious !! it’s my firs final. (i’dont speak englsh too, so sorry if you don’t understand me or it’s wrong write)
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Do ur best man! When im nervous i play patient and usually catch my senses…
oh man… we started (pair tournament) pretty good. Against guile/kazuya all good, we beat them very easy because we study our past errors.
but suddenly they changed to ken-hugo.
4 ken no troubles but hugo … one mistake and takes half our HP
so we have some mistakes and loose the final
well… we had to conform with 2nd place
really i never played against a “good” hugo it’s no a simple thing to manage.
I think once you’re more familiar with the match-up, it’s a lot easier. His normals are slower than Zangief’s, his command throws have pitiful range, he needs EX for a reliable AA and his monster lariat is punishable if it’s not charged to EX.
Let him make the mistakes and his 50% combos leading off a splash don’t work against lariat. 
I’m surprised it was Ken didn’t give you trouble while Hugo really did, but I suppose he’s got that intimidation factor.
i always play against a ken w/fucking cross tatsu… so i learn how to block properly.
But hugo scare me cause whe he’s close i don’t knew it what to do.
Backdash: no, jump: no
Block… maybe (and praying for no comand grab).
For all of these reasons i had some mistakes…
hahaha, today i read all thread… and see the advantages za / against hugo --> too late
ohhh…
Today I have to decide my final partner 4 gief.
I know to play w/:
- Juri
- Hwoarang
- Rufus
And a little bit w/ :
- Ryu
- Ogre
- Law
Can you help my to decide?
Thanx a LOT!!
id say rufus 
he can get in close do nasty damage
I found out today that Marduk and Gief do some great work together, I suppose there’s the problem of getting in, but for the damage they can do on touch it seems worth it.
Spinning Back Fist -> Tag -> Any Command Throw
Lariat -> Tag -> Gator Slam HP
EX Greenhand -> tag -> Takedown/EX Takedown
Definitely going to invest in this team until DLC comes out.
yes but got 2 anchors so to say. you will be slow and not agile. you need versatility in your team where if one of your opponents get a bad matchup the other one can fill in. imo is all
Rolls are just like getting up normally except you are in a different location, there are no vulnerable frames where u can’t block or can be thrown for free, go into training mode and record a dummy rolling and holding up, they can never be spd’d. I think the main reason rolling is actually disadvantageous is that if they read ur roll they can position themselves at a sweet spot to where it’s very ambiguous if u need to block left or right on wake up after rolling.
If I remember correctly there are 4 pre-jump frames.
If the opponent rolls and u execute a command grab before ends you should grab it … or not?
No, you can’t jump pre-jump frames. Some characters, like Zangief, also have more than 4.
Yea can’t grab pre jump frames, it’s surprising that I’ve met people who know what a prejump frame is yet don’t know about its unthrowable property, I remember a makoto player who swore that he had a frame trap to command grab that couldn’t be jumped out of.
Hitting someone in pre-jump frames grounds them – if the frame trap led to a throw able status or had low hit stun I could see it being able to lead to a command grab.
If someone is holding up no frame trap or hit stun will allow them to be thrown, while this makoto thought that wasn’t the case.
ah, I see. I was thinking he meant that he hit someone before they actually jumped, not he managed it after they were already airborne.
Since day one i have been playing SFxTK and i have been for everyday so far and i shall continue to do so because on may 25th is a tournament UFGT8 This will be my first time doing a tourny what so ever. Anyone else going?
Even in the case u were thinking they can’t be thrown because pre jump frames are not throwable
I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks for the info.