Inflated EGOOOOOS

Classic Fighting Games Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
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This is true…except for the fact that since you can create teams that mitigate the random…the game can’t effectively be called random. It may have situations that are close to impossible to guess right in…though that’s every fighting game that gives you a lot of options as you get close. The main thing that creates variance in Marvel above else is the amount of resources you lose when you die. That doesn’t make it random though. Nobody would play the game competitively if it was truly based on random factors for whether or not you succeeded.

If it were to literally be a toss up everytime you fought someone regardless of their skill or how many times you played…that would be random.

If you don’t set up a team and learn all your options for dealing with the chaos…that’s not playing optimally and if that gets you blown up by somebody you shouldn’t have…that’s your problem.

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Did you just said japanese players are the worst people?

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What?

Get lost troll

The game attracting the worst people doesn’t mean all the players playing it are the worst. P implies Q doesn’t mean Q implies P, logic 101.

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I am disappoint. I came in here expecting a discussion about giant waffles.

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I am the best

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Marvel has the smuggiest community of any game I’ve ever played.

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I got big dick :stuck_out_tongue: there. Swagger on a hundred thousand, trillion, king of everything.

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  1. The online community have inflated egos just because they are online.

  2. The majority of the people that win have an ego. Thats just the fact at life. IE. Look at Andre

And I just have to put this song up. Im sorry…

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Idk how to explain it its just the way VS games are that promote egos. Like you can be a decent player with a retarded team that bullies 90% of teams and then think your the shit until you run into MorrgDoom that complain that MorrgDoom is scrub. Or spam a high risk / high reward move with a n assist that now becomes low risk/high reward.

There is straight up random shit in this game like ive seen it at least 2 or 3 times where a wesker player means to to l.tele but the opponent crosses him up and he gets a l.palm -> otg into death combo or my fav with dorm where i sj going for popwer up or flight n opponent crosses me under on the ground and i get a s or dark hole and fall to my death :frowning:

Again idk how to explain it but when i have a close match with someone in 3s, kof, skullgirls ect i wana look at the person and say “respect that was close” when i win a close match in Marvel i wana look over at the person and say “Stay fucking free” lol.

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Don’t feed the trolls. -.- Keep it legit. Talk about what this thread is about. This is a big problem. Fighting games are full of these guys who basically rate their self worth and yours on how good they are at some game. they rag on women, they hate on each other… etc. All this stuff about how godlike x person is or y is or whatever or all this… Really? Is any of that even necessary? What if we became like Starcraft (In general) or Tekken in Korea? As in… Legit, clean, organized, and recognized? Is that really so bad? Going from back rooms in conventions to more tournaments on the level of EVO, SBO etc, and having more than just stream monsters and other players know who we are. Seriously, think about this. If most people here become nicer to be around in general we WILL see growth. We will see less people threatened by all the screaming, chestbeating men and will start coming here because playing sf will be more seen as a legitimate thing. I personally can’t stand the antagonistic “YO DAWG PROVE YO SELF” attitude- it’s annoying. Just play the game, let your digital fists do the talking. In short,be more like Ryu- quiet, respectful (most of the time anyway), disciplined, strong- and less like that loudmouth screecher of a character, Adon.

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This is justified though. No one gives a shit if you can put a hole in one or that you banged a model last night if you suck at whatever game you’re playing. Your worth and respect you earn in the FGC is directly proportional to how good you are. It’s pretty much a meritocracy. This is not what the OP is talking about though

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Lotta bitchassness runnin’ around this thread.

People got in fist fights over CVS2 and 3s and everything else back in the day. I’ve seen 'em go down over TTT.

I’ve seen them go down over Initial D, over fucking DDR or IIDX.

It’s not ‘just a Marvel’ thing, people’s ego’s get bruised when they get fucked up. Maybe your autism is too intense to understand why another human would get mad when they lose, I dunno. But this thread really doesn’t need to exist. Nothing positive is going to come of this.

Oh, and FYI: People boast about anything they’re considerably better than anyone else in. That’s just how people are.

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i had a huge ego before i started playing Marvel.

this game just gives me an easy outlet for it.

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I always expect more douches when I play marvel. I got back into fighting games because of marvel and that was only because I am a huge comics fan plus I wanted RE characters because I’m a big Survival Horror fan. I Got the game to play characters I liked not really for the fighting. That seriously changed though and its basically the only thing I play on my Xbox anymore and its been my hobby since. I love the game. That said Marvel even has a tendency to make me more hot-headed than usual and I really think its because of the fast paced, epileptic lighted, and super HYPE aura that marvel maintains.

I love that fast paced craziness its the thing that makes the game fun but its also what makes people think they are badasses because it looks like they have done unbelievable amounts of damage with a single combo that lasts like 5 to 10 seconds when in all actuality they just really rocked that X-factor.

point is marvel does what games like it are supposed to it makes you feel like a badass because on the screen you look like a badass, a side effect of this is people easily get caught up in it and become out and out douches instead of having fun and enjoying the game

also the noticeable win/loss ratio whenever you start a game is incentive for a more artificially competitive game and is a mind-game all in itself.

All that said while I have been known to get hot-headed I try to check myself when I am. and I respect a 80/200 w/l ratio a hella lot more than i do a 100/15 because like J.D said at the top of the thread its someone trying to get better, at least its someone trying to have fun which is what these games especially online should be about, just having fun and getting better

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If it’s that easy, then it should be equally easy to shut down his logic. Do it.

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So this guy would dominate if he played, right?

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Marvel is bullshit. Plain and simple. Marvel 3 is utter complete bullshit. You hit me once, did you really deserve to kill one of my characters by simply reciting a desk combo video? Players just don’t get the fact that you die in 1 hit, you watch combo videos in person, and the tiers play heavily in this game moreso than others because its “teams”.

Also people think they are amazing because of the characters they use having an easy time on weaker players then when they hit someone who knows what they’re doing, they wonder why team top tier isn’t working.
Just let em be stupid and move on, they clearly don’t understand how the game is played.

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I’ll admit.

I’m not a fan of the kids who win one match, taunt & teabag, then quit. Especially when they’re using such un-original teams; example: Dante, Vergil, Wesker.

But hey, it’s a video game. Life’s too short to be angry about every little thing.

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I think “this game attracts the worst people” argument is probably the best reply i’ve seen. I came into vanilla not liking fighting games in general. I played Mortal Kombat 9, and even though i was a huge fan of the series all the way through mortal kombat Armageddon, I still didn’t like it, primarily because i started playing marvel. Combo building is fun to me, and i constantly come up with interesting ideas because the game has so much potential to that degree. I also play online with my friends, and although a lot of the things that happen in UMVC pisses me off, I still enjoy the game. The inflated egos rule doesn’t apply to me, as i am not a complete noob, but their are SO many people better than i am. I think that the OP has simply been playing a lot of ranked, and that’s the problem. Most people who play ranked expect that they are good, and winning simply inflates the ego. It doesn’t matter how or why you won, you get a sense of accomplishment when you win, and start to think you have everything figured out. The general assholes that seem to gravitate toward this game have to point out they are an asshole. So…

A: They lost on stupid shit, and it’s the game not their skill, or you got a lucky hit in. They must point this out, or you might actually think your good.

B: They won, obviously because they are better than you. They must point this out, or you might think it was because of stupid shit, or that it’s the game and not skill related.

Simply put, this is what you should expect playing ranked matches. I don’t play ranked because i play for fun. I rarely play the game unless one of my friends are online, so i have only hopped on player matches about 2 or 3 times since the game has come out. If you happen to have a local scene or play in tournaments, and you go online to “test your might”, expect to run into douchebags, and just ignore their messages. Their is a very good chance that they think they are hot shit because they simply do not know what it means to be at “tournament level.”

Let me clarify one thing. This game attracts online assholes. It also attracts people who like your general fighting game genre. Play online if you want to test your skill or a team idea, but do not play it for fun. Only play with your friends if you play for fun. If you have plenty of access to local play, don’t play online. Offline is, for obvious reasons, a better way to test your skill level or test your team, figure out areas you need to improve, etc.

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I don’t know if I fully agree with this statement. I’ll be honest here, this game is stupid, and often times its not always skill but its the games fault. Many things are wrong with this game. Is Justin Wong a bad player because he lost to Morrigan bullet hell bullshit? no. That’s the games fault for allowing her to build meter in illusion mode and cause such a situation. I think the problem is learning to beat these strategies, IF there is a way to beat it. And no, guessing right in a 50/50 is not a way to beat it, its guessing = random/lucky. So if you happen to block someone’s 50/50 mixup, of course they’ll be pissed. Vice versa, if you get hit by a 50/50 you’ll be pissed. No one is happy in this game.

X-factor is also very random. Remind me what you did to get that Level 3 x-factor and get 500% damage boost and speed boost? Oh yeah. You were losing. This game is built around bullshit and nonsense. And yet we still come back and play it :wink: