In Response to the Article about 'Degrading Women'

http://shoryuken.com/2011/11/24/an-observation-of-the-sexualization-of-females-in-fighters/ This is the link in Question.

So, like many others, I had me a good read through it to try and see what they’d like to say today. I enjoyed the one writer’s article about how fighting games may one day attain Boxing levels, though the inaccuracies of some of the statements confounded me, I found a few points I agreed with.

However, I can’t let this article slide.

The man who wrote it, who’s name I have forgotten because he’s forgettable, obviously did any real research into the subject matter that he wrote about. He missed several key elements, found new ways to make us despise his ‘Flip Floppy’ arguments, and rather than take any side himself, he used an Ambiguous Neutral Statement as a closer. I cannot stand that. He has no faith in what he writes about, and neither should we.

Now, I enjoy the new articles and the bouts of writing that come from SRK, mostly because I like to take a step back and enjoy the more intellectual levels of the fighting community. However, with this trend, I find there is little intellectual activity actually going on. Let’s begin by addressing this article piece by piece.

First of all, he began by using the all too common Dead or Alive franchise, where the titties on these women bounce more than Nemesis’ Rocket Launcher Hyper Combo. Dead or Alive’s selling point, and gimmick at that matter, had always been the intricate use of their body physics to create a more visually appealing dynamic for its player base. The player base in question was a series of male players ranging from the teens to the adults. It follows the simple formula of… ‘If there are breasts just thrown out into the open, men will flock to it like a prostitute that’s half off’. And you know what? It worked. Does that mean women have been objectified to make money? Yes. And no. For the reason that Dead or Alive may have a target audience of men, the male fighters within the game are just as equally over appealing. Most have wash board stomachs, shirtless motifs for their costumes, perfectly chiseled faces, and voice actors whom most women would die for. Sometimes women are objectified, sometimes the men are too. You only look at the women because they yell louder and bleed all over the place (Not to mention the obvious reasons why most men look at them.)

He then goes on to pick on good ol’ Chun-Li as though she had done something wrong. What’s that Chun-Li? You have massive thighs because you need them for capturing criminals and knocking a gent out in a single blow? Oh, so you say that the occasional panty shot results from clothing designed for easy movement? If a man wore your clothing, would his groin be protruded out for all to bear witness to? It would? I see! Well you heard it here folks, Chun-Li makes very obvious points for her clothing of choice. Now, if he had mentioned Sakura-- Oh wait a moment; He didn’t. He neglected one of the most obvious of choices, and instead substituted Cammy. Oh yes, Cammy just wants to lay with all the randy young gentlemen, and not kick your shins out or blow out your knee caps with her dive kicks and spiraling leg drops. Yes, Cammy and her teeny tiny buttocks and her mosquito bite breasts.

Sir, I cannot forgive you for this article. I could if you had simply picked a side and stuck with it, but no, you simply said ‘Well it could be a good thing, but it’s a bad thing too’ and walked away as though you had finished for the afternoon.

Good day to you sir.

tl;dr it was crap

Indeed. I agree with you kind sir.

Can we talk about FG degrading men? They always talk about women but what about the Vega’s and the DeeJay’s and the Urien’s?

That “article” was straight trash. Dude’s a Tekken fanboy that just hates DOA.

The writer, Kenpachi, also wrote the useless article on the lack of character creation in Soul Cailbur

I do not like to hate much on front page articles because I’m guessing it is a lot of work…but come the fuck on. Can we get some standards for writing articles up in this bitch?

Not mine.

I’m just glad I’m not the only one who thinks Cammy’s ass is small. Why people say it’s the biggest in SF is a mystery I’ll never understand.

My Apologies D3v, I shall rectify this error.

Someone link the article in question.

Yes, let’s address that here and now.

Vega, and overly sexualized man who believes in ‘true’ beauty. He is the epitome of a man’s inner desire to ‘Fuck Bitches, Get Money’ in a sense that he only likes attractive women and being better than everyone else.

Deejay is quite possibly the most racist thing to ever come out of a fighting game. One assumes a Jamaican speaks like that, only likes Caribbean music, and should tan and work out as much as physically possible.

If you don’t see the issues with Urien, then, well, I apologize.

The only articles I’ve written so far are the one on portables and that one that supposedly “trolled the MegaMan fanbase.”

the megaman fanbase just likes to be mad

I actually quite enjoyed that article, though it did miss the key point that players are angry because Capcom wants to molest and murder their child hood star. But I digress, most fanboys will rage about silly things.

srk frontpage out of control

But what about Rikuo? He’s a curiously attractive fishman and just can’t help it.

Seriously, the article reads like a first draft. Wishy-washy and needed to go through the scrutiny grindhouse. Yes, it sucks to do that, but unless you want people to not understand your stance, then you’ve got to do it. Plus, not including the opposite effect of sexualized men, nor qualifying the argument, hurts the article.

[LEFT]I think the main reason why the sexualized women argument is a lot more of a big deal to folks than the sexualized men one is because of its history on the perception of women and how it’s still a pretty prevalent stereotype in media and society to this day. It’s been a thing since…forever, so the weight that the argument carries is a lot more significant than its counterpart.[/LEFT]

But what is almost never mentioned or even suggested in these articles is that this behavior to perv on the other gender literally isn’t exclusive to males. Women do exactly the same damn thing with guys - they can be just as crass, just as vulgar and they like their dick and abs perfectly toned. I swear if there were more females populating the fighter community we would be having tiers on which player is the fittest. If I’ve learned anything from frequenting both male dominated communities and female dominated communities, it’s that we’re all pigs.

Now I don’t mean to snuff the history or significance of the argument, but to me it’s really just a question of treating the content equally (much like how in reality we all want to be treated equally). Slut up some girls and slut up some guys. Everybody wins.

misogyny is a subject that basically no one on understand is mature enough to handle on SRK, where I believe the collective average mental age is somewhere between “cooties” and “hides porn mags under the bed” when regarding the opposite gender.

So, nothing of substance then? why even bother posting this…