At the recent calpoly tournament he started attacking another player just because he couldn’t take some jeers from that person. The other player didn’t even have any intention of fighting.
Well I agree that dude totally didn’t deserve it,but there are also times when people should just shut the fuck up and let the players play period,which is why I despise heckling.
If a guy is getting his ass handed to him in the game,you think he wants to hear it from niggas that he doesn’t even know?
To me the other guy was just as much at fault for what happened as Dark Prince was.
I don’t care what kind of environment you are in.You don’t talk shit especially to a guy that you don’t even know,and then always expect it to be magic sunshine and rainbows at the end.
Some people just need to practice Self-Control Period.
See, though, this mentality could become a real problem. Think of the Ron Artest brawl - the guy in the crowd was not only talking shit to him, but actually throwing beer at him, yet Artest was still the villain for attacking him. Mainstream society teaches that violence is not an acceptable solution, and until the Marvel community adopts the same attitude it will continue to be seen as “thugs” by some.
I’m way way confused here. I’ve been to many tourneys everywhere, and if all a sudden we have standards for people cheering, this is totally news to me. Is this codified in some form, or it just some magic “if you bother me then you’re wrong otherwise it’s totally fine” Rolento tripwire of death?
I’d bet that if things are vocally out of control, you could speak to the tourney director and get that person to leave or be kicked out if it bothers you. Or you could invest in headphones so you have your own soundtrack if you feel you’re extra sensitive.
I’d bet that physical violence is generally considered ‘assault’, aggravated or not, and that you don’t need to resort to that in any fashion.
I personally find people saying “get hype” but now “don’t cheerlead” to be providing a contradictory message.
I agree that he shouldn’t have been jeered, however DP trash talking makes him a disliked fellow and he shouldn’t be surprised if people are going to jeer him when he makes an ass of himself and then loses. The man can jeer other players but no one jeer him? Or else he’ll get his “gang” to knock you the fuck out?
Think about it from other players, even Justin Wong is booed every so often, does he take it out on whomever booed him during his match? no.
cheering and jeering come with the competitive nature of fighting game tournaments, if you can’t handle the pressure and have to lash out at the crowd then you don’t belong here.
from crowd noise levels in matches i watch, people boo justin wong for doing infinites, yet they’d cheer anyone that’s beating him.
sure, he’s THE GUY, considered by most, to beat in marvel, but justin wong wouldnt freak out because people are booing him and beat up people in the crowd.
it’s the players themselves that cant control their own emotions and they freak out so easily
How about it’s the wrong thing to do no matter what? Clearly it is. End of story, stop being an apologist.
If you react to losing in video games by punching people, stop playing video games and see a psychologist/psychiatrist. Don’t fucking ruin it for the rest of us who aren’t infantile. You have issues. Deal with them on your own time.
Or, here’s another novel idea: don’t play video games in public. Go play in private where you can have your cock fights and don’t ruin the public scene.
Seriously, is this where you want the scene to be? I’ll punch you if I don’t win? I want no part of that bullshit, and I’m nauseated by people attempting to justify stuff like this. Grow the fuck up. Demand better.
I’m going to unsubscribe from this thread before I just walk away from Marvel. You creep me out. I don’t want to be part of or support this stupid world thug apologists are proposing. Stuff like the heckling last year at Evo I thought was out of control at certain times, but you don’t need to resort to violence to sort that out, and it certainly doesn’t need to be anyone’s go-to strategy when mean guy say wrong thing. throws up on your idealogy
you do have a very valid point and this idea is the general consensus for anyone with a thinking, functioning brain. however, that epidemic kid (as annoying as he may be posting every 5 seconds on SRK, inviting himself on other people’s conversations, and using way too many emoticons) isn’t siding with any thug apologists; he’s simply stating what the nature of the environment we’re in is.
first off, it’s not just fighting games where shit-talking isn’t approved. no one likes to lose. even worse: no one likes to lose and get taunted after the fact. i understand there’s a difference between shit-talking and getting hype, but sometimes you just need to watch what you say and who you say it to.
that andy kid at cal-poly a few weeks ago (as horrible as this sounds) sort of had it coming to him, knowing full well who he was provoking and that his shouting didn’t help the situation. standing there and listening to it was amusing, but to a point, i didn’t want to have to get involved with a situation that was unnecessary. we all understand it’s fun and games. he seems like a chill kid. funny as hell from what i remember. HOWEVER, it’s all fun and games until DPC gets up and starts launching an investigation on a crowd full of spectators. sure he’s a guy not too many people like, but he just lost 2-0 to a guy some would say is his nemesis. i’m sure the provocation didn’t help his mood meanwhile. and i’m aware that these people have issues, but the people watching/playing against them aren’t psychiatrists. those issues are going to linger. it’s not the losing that causes people to fight; i’m sure. it’s that little, extra nudge in verbal form.
i mean, i guess it really depends on who you “shit-talk” or “get hype” over, but just understand that something of this magnitude is bound to happen if you push someone enough. don’t get me wrong; i love drama and all the hype that surrounds the scene (i.e. a good part of the 5v5 EC v WC… or rather WC v WC thread) all the while with no physicality arising.
no one should have to tell you or anyone else what to say and what not to say when you’re offering your input on a match, cheering or what have you. i’m sure you (preppy) are a pretty chill guy who doesn’t even need to worry about shit like this. i completely agree with you about the “troubled” not playing in public etc. no one’s justifying fucking people up for losing. it’s just understanding your surroundings and how this scene has become so serious. i don’t prefer the violence just as much as the next guy, but understand that saying things like “your sentinel’s a bitch” during a match probably wouldn’t yield positive results when you’re coming at a guy like DPC who everyone knows doesn’t take kindly to any verbal “attack.”
also, shout out to epidemic :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock: again
I’m not really sure why there’s even a “debate” over this. Fighting over video games, even if you’re getting the shit heckled out of you, should never happen. Period. If a game gets you that worked up that it acts as a catalyst for physical violence, you need to stop playing the game and move on to bigger things.
I swear to god if MvC3 was ever made it wouldn’t accept quarters/tokes as currency; it’d accept sand from vaginas instead.
i dunno man, some of the shit talk gets way out of line. i remember when the shittalk and insanity was brought to new heights at evo 2k6 with the smoothviper money matches. shit was funny, i wont lie. and after the matches, and really intense shittalking, it was all good on both sides. but when it was smoothviper vs cableguy, i started to have a problem. i remember specifically after 1st match after smooth laid the beatdown, he jumps up(as usual) shouting the shit talk, then snatches cableguy’s yankees hat off his head and throws it on the ground. I’m not one to condone violence, but i can tell you right then, if someone were to do that to me(the hat thing), they are asking for a massive beatdown. Thats just completely out of line and taking it too far.
i got nothing against smoothviper tho, hes a pretty cool guy from what i see, and i know he means nothing by it. he just really gets into the game. but my point is, some of these marvel cats take it way too far, like they dont understand where the line is. and then it crosses the line to absolute disrespect. all the time, i hear personal insults and such, is that really necessary?
when you act like that, theres bound to be trouble. and thats a problem