"I'm not Gouken..." Oni General Discussion Thread

Hi guys…well TBH I will main ONI and drop Akuma…ONI is the perfect character for me and I’m really liking his play style. So I’m just sticking with Akuma till June 7th then after that I’m dropping the demon for ONI…

This is my question about Oni well a few questions.

  1. Is it possible to fadc a shoryuken on the 2nd blocked hit.
  2. Exactly how good are his normals are they almost as good as Rose’s?
    3.Is there another reversal oni can use that is better than an Srk?
    4.What makes him not as good as the other shoto’s?
  1. It’s impossible to even hit the second hit after the first, cos of the push back from the hit and knock back makes you whiff the second hit.
  2. His normal are very quick, hitbox is quite big, hit stun is quite good, recovery also good for physicals and seems to deal above average stun.
  3. Demon Slam (The butt slam), safe on block and quite fast, has a invinc in certain areas and ways.
    4.No Shoryu on block FADC

lol @ buttslam

not sure how good the slam move as a reversal, has its uses but definitely not better than srk, oh its not really safe on block(depends) though i guess since you can fadc it, maybe it can be safe? hmm

ive seen it used as a reversal at competitive level, people spam it quite a bit too, we need frame data so bad…

Oh I thought I read it was safe on block before, my bad.

it can be safe on block depending on the version/distance/meatiness/opponent/fadc… i cant say much since i dont play him much anymore, focusin on my main now + tight budget aint allowing me to fuck around and waste a play lol

console is only a week away though heh

the Sekisei Jiraiken looks good enough for a reversal and also looks like it can be use for a nice vortex for ONI but time will only tell how good it is and the frame data on it,…can’t wait till June 7th

hello all!
i have a few questions today about Oni…
1.EX crossup slash,Ultra/Shoryuken is possible?
2.is his EX Hadoken Chargeable?
3.Is Airdash canceled into Tatsu,able to followup with Ultra in corner?
4.Is cr.lk,cr.lp,cr.hp a strict link?

  1. yes. 2. no. 3. not sure, plausible but not a clean hit aka full animation… 4. from my experience, not really.

So his high damage link isnt that hard? Do i go about the combo as if i were linking jabs?
and which fb is best for the fb wars? vs. ryu/sagat/gouken

the type of fb to use will depend on where you and your opponite is on screen.
Fullscreen: mp electric will be fine against ryu, sagat, with gouken youll have to watch his meter or hell ex flip to u, same with akuma
midscreen and closer: regular and ex fb.

Why do people recommend MP Gorai Hadoken instead of HP?

one recovers faster than the other plus in a regular fb war it will cancel theirs giving you time to advance or set up your next move.

Good to know! Gotta start training my middle finger to be my fireball thrower. Not that I currently throw many fireballs with Makoto. And Chun’s take so long to charge and throw that I’ve got plenty of time to think about it.

In other news, I’ve seen clips of Oni’s first alternate costume, notably from hfz. Are alts somehow usable in arcades stateside, or only in Japan?

afaik only in japan

though i guess comes AE console, everyone will get to use his alt

lol ive been playing oni and gouki lately and i tend to get em combo mixed hahaha

I’m gonna main ONI…Akuma is and always be my number 1 guy but once AE comes out I’m dropping him for ONI to be my main…can’t wait…5 days to go…

Does anyone has any “new” footage of oni as of 2 days ago? any gameplay of him and any new combos?

Well theres this,

Hmm i just found wao’s blog and he wrote quite a lot of notes on Oni (so far there are 7 parts)

so maybe if yall have the time and feeling adventurous, here’s the link http://wao.blog.eonet.jp/default/

ill look into the posts when im available to do so…

edit: hmm so Oni’s neutral jump HK has a hitbox at the back too (similar to abel’s neutral jump lk) so if someone walks under him when he neutral jumps, its possible to hit