I’ve been playing around with Cartwheel just as a move to throw out. I had never realized how outrageous its hitbox is until I accidentally caught Strange with the tail end of it after he teleported behind me. I’m hoping this might actually be a legitimate defensive tactic against certain attacks.
Im finding some nice tech with Jill/Iron man/Sentinel, I’ll be back later >;3
That’s the same team I’m using. Are you usIng unibeam or RB?
Unibeam, and it kicks ass 
Hmm are you houninsunovabitch from /r/eddit?
Took your ass long enough to come here. 
yeah that’s me xD, i’ve been reading, but havn’t made an account cause srk wasn’t allowing any signups for a while 
Also, I’ve improved a lot since I stopped using magneto and just picked iron man up again, (I’ve been playing him since ultimate began, but dropped him not too long ago) I’ve already come up with some nasty setups, so i’ll be posting them later on ;D
So do we have optimized hard tag DKD combos for Jill without assists? I started to transition away from Flying Ve’s double bounce ender towards Paulo and d00d’s stuff, but it’d still be nice to keep the tech if I ever wanted to use it. I liked the reset options that came with it.
I don’t think I’ve even seen mention of that for months. The consensus was that Jill is mostly gimped by having an OTG assist, and then I never saw it again. Here’s one I just made up for you, though, works off pretty much any confirm so long as you transition directly to Somersault or :h: > Somersault:
Somersault > :uf: > j:h::s: > 
:h: > :d::d::s: > Somersault > :d::d::s: > :qcf::h: > j:qcf::h:
From another confirm:
:l::h: > :d::d::s: > Somersault > :uf: > j:h::s: > :h: > :d::d::s: > Somersault > :d::d::s: > :qcf::h: > j:qcf::h:
Being a double-bouncer like Ve’s, it only works in the corner. It would pleasantly surprise me to discover that Jill is actually capable of setting up a :h:DKD solo without the corner.
It’s ancient I know, but I’m stubborn/would stop playing marvel for long periods of time…until recently. And yeah, she really does need better assists. Like we were discussing earlier, OTG in the corner gives you conversions off of an air throw, but when you can just apply pressure and start a new combo anyway it doesn’t seem worth it.
Thanks for this, btw. I’ll probably mess around and see if I can’t extend it/give it more carry with useful non-OTG assists.
No problem and thanks; it would be neat to see revived old tech with better applications.
Jill is extremely assist-dependent even just to function, which is something that is continuously reinforced as I keep learning the character.
ADDED “FERAL DASH TIPS” AND “PUSHBLOCK CONFLICT” TABS TO POST #3
UPDATED “FLIP KICK LOOPS” TAB IN POST #3 TO PRESENT ANOTHER APPLICATION
I had a brief back-and-forth with Hououen and decided that those were two imperative subjects that should be covered, but I neglected to cover. They are entirely freehand and any criticisms and additions would be most appreciated.
Sorry, Gene, I forgot to get back to you on that.
Unfortunately, it still doesn’t work. One cool thing I DID learn from pulling it off, though, was that Sweep Kick can actually be canceled with special moves. That is one weird move.
I think this could be incredible, actually, if paired with flip kick loops. I played with it; much like with regular flip kick loops, you can do up to seven flip kicks after a sweep kick, and if you cut it short to four, you can end it with a Roundhouse to the regular Somersault > TK Cartwheel, steal the corner > Somersault > MGS ender for 662k, which is easier and about 10k more damage than sweep kick > six flip kicks > cartwheel > roundhouse > dash > Somersault > MGS. Works anywhere, too!
I think we’re on to something! :tup:
ADDED “NORMAL CONFIRMS” AND “OTHER CONFIRMS” SECTIONS TO POST #2 (RAN OUT OF SPACE IN POST #1)
MOVED COMBOS FROM “COMMAND GRAB CONFIRMS” TO "OTHER CONFIRMS"
UPDATED THE POSITION EXCHANGE SECTION IN THE “IMPERATIVE MOVES” TAB
Oops, I totally forgot we had the flip kick loops all optimized already with a Somersault at the end. It actually does 675k that way!
UPDATED “SWEEP CONFIRM”
Thanks again, Admiral Gene Parmesan!
Also, Gene, I’m an idiot. Your trick does totally work with Flip Kick.
New jill mid screen combo, with a ton of setup opportunities in there, I don’t know if it’s been done before, it’s just a mod of the flip kick loop. Does 690-700k mid screen
m, h, somersault, somersault, jumping roundhouse, 22s, 6, [236L, 22s,] x3, 236 M, somersault, MGS
Quick update on the guide
About 95% done, I apologize for this taking so long; I’ve been quite busy this month (more busy than I originally thought)
It’s pretty darn godlike though
Ur guide on gamefaqs?
Dammit, the forum update made all of my notated posts look like garbage. I’d fix it, but it could just be wasted effort if the emote problem is ever resolved.
Sorry to hear that gangie, you had a GDLK guide :\
here’s some new tech, NSR discovered a non-tac and non-xfactor infinite!
It was a joke, gangie lol
Haha, I really need more footage for my channel. Hopefully this ft5 should add some more flare.
Haha yeah, i watch your channel all the time for help x_x