I play VF5FS and KOF 98. I stopped SSFIV, MVC3. Does that make me uncool table material?!
Wouldn’t it kind of be a good thing that SF4 brought a lot of attention to fighters? I guess I always looked at it like a generational thing where some will always think less of newcomers but I think overall it’s a good thing. I used to play in arcades all the time back when they were everywhere, played from championship edition all the way up to ultra-but just made an account this year. I don’t get how the length of time of being a member makes you, rather how you handle yourself and your level of respect for others.
As much as some fans don’t seem to like SF and prefer more complex titles, i still think its great that it brought more people into the genre.
I remember n miss the good ole days
Just wish SF4 players would play other games…
^ I’m sure they do. They’re probably just not brave enough to come on a public forum and talk about it. SF4 breathed new life into the Capcom mix. The game’s accessible and more friendlier than the others. Still, I want my blood, gore, and lose pictures, back. IV feels like a saturday morning cartoon compared to II-III:2nd Impact, which kept the II theme going. For what it did to the world, it’s incredible.
They most definitely do. I dabble in all types of 2D fighters. SF4 is the only one where I feel I’ve made legitimate growth as a player, so I play it a bit more.
I came here to post the exact same thing. I signed up in August of 2004, RIGHT after that video. I had been playing MvC2 for almost a year at that point, but I only read the forums and was obviously still too scrubby to really contribute. Then that video came out and everyone was going apeshit, and I seem to recall that I HAD to create an account to get the video.
We were treated a lot like 09ers. If you had 04 as your join date, people were going in on you. I’m sure all of you 09ers have heard it before, but SRK really was a much more brutal place during the MvC2/CvS2/3S days. People would write fucking novels to tell you how stupid you were, and half of the “e-thugs” were very likely real thugs who you wouldn’t want to fuck with in real life.
I honestly think a big part of the 09er hate actually came from people who were spawned in the post 04 era. I know that at the time, I deeply resented both SFIV and the wave of people it brought along. The best way I can justify it is like this: I got into fighters as a 15 year old kid, and I kind of grew up in the scene. I would spend all my time in arcades with 21+year old dudes who would talk shit mercilessly, and get my ass handed to me repeatedly in every game I touched. As time went on, I started getting more solid, more comfortable and more social, and these older guys really began to be less harsh and more like mentors. My first time doing a lot of shit in life came with people I met thru fighting games. Fuck, I even lost my virginity to a girl I met in my arcade.
So 2009 rolls around, my arcade closes, those guys who were in their early 20s when I was 15 are now popping out kids and getting careers. Fighting games in my region of the Pacific Northwest are at their all-time stalest, and here I am 21 years old still trying to play MvC2, CvS2 and 3S like I always have, and SFIV comes out. Instantly shit starts changing, people start coming out of nowhere to play this game. I know this sounds a little bit dramatic, but it almost felt as though something I loved dearly was being attacked and taken from me by outsiders. It was the complaining and the whining of the 09ers that really got me. None of them were willing to put in the work that we had to put in (or so it seemed at the time). They would just whine and bitch and constantly ask inane questions like “how do u hold fightstick?!”. They even seemed to change a lot of the lingo that was being thrown around…I still don’t like it when people say “salty”, for example.
I spent a lot of time hating on 09ers. I’m not longer a very active SRK poster, but in 2009 I was actually on the front page for the reputation system. A lot of you guys in here who are talking about getting automatic neg reps simply for being an 09er, there’s a strong chance that was me. Looking back on it I realize how immature that was, but it felt right at the time. Once I accepted that MvC2 was dead, I picked up SSFIV when it dropped in 2010. Hated it at first, but as the game grew on me, so did a lot of these new players I was meeting thru the game. Some of the best friends I’ve ever made have been 09ers, so as the years went on I started to be thankful for SFIV and what it did for the scene. I miss the way things were, but it was a different time, just like 2009 is starting to look a whole lot different from the 2014 version of the FGC.
My current view of 09ers is actually pretty positive. If anyone can stick with a fighting game for 5 years and be an active competitor and contributor, I respect that. The group of people that we really need to be worried about are these fucking lunatics over on Reddit, in places like r/kappa and r/sfiv. I think that the wave of new players from 2013 and 2014 are actually MUCH worse than the 09ers, because these people are being introduced by the whole “Stream monster” experience, which wasn’t even really a thing yet in 2009.
Been playing for a long time, but it is tough to find a decent forum without a lot of BS.
As for the '09 thing, I believe it is more of a “hate the freshman” mentality.
As a forum SRK’s golden years ended after '05.
I remember and miss those days
ironically, 2004 was the last year I visited arcades. where I moved, there were no arcades with decent fighters, except Tekken
@Komatik technically Infiltration is an '08er because he was playing in the arcades when it first came out IIRC, and Korea got the arcade version in '08.
post09ers are the people that didn’t play street fighter before sf4. they have NO idea about any other fighting game out there. while some of them can adopt, most post09ers simply aren’t quailified.
people that played fighting games before sf4 but weren’t on srk really aren’t “post09ers”. they simply didn’t join/know about srk.
I think this hits the nail pretty squarely on the head. The fact that some of them pretty much exclusively play SFIV, and will shit talk other games without understanding what makes games good or bad because all they have is a sample size of one.
The bolded part pretty much describes my experience to a “T” I started playing fighting games seriously either late in 05 or early 06 and pretty much lurked for 3 or so years until I started organizing Ranbats at my place and actually needed to post for get together announcements.
I miss super arcade around spring 2004
I felt so pissed when CvS2 started disappearing players. I was really pissed. I just couldnt believe people would switch over to SFIV just cuz it was the “new thing.” It was also very frustrating realizing that Crapcom showed no love for CvS2, and didn’t give to pisses to release a CvS2 online edition for PSN/Xlive.
to this day I’m like dude… we all deserve to play CvS2 online… quit being fucking gyps… capcom… I wanna play my K-Groove Rock and K-Groove Kyo and get the learning curve training that I never had as a kid. I wanna play this game as a man not as a kid, I was too young in 2006 to understand what it took to be a viable CvS2 tourney player like the legendary OTK
lol. I guess i’m from '09, but not from '09 according to that list
N*gga please
eat some diccs post09ers
like 4 of them
I know what you mean. I was more into Marvel than CvS2, but I dropped a lot of time into all three main Capcom games back then and was shocked that SFIV managed to replace both 3S AND CvS2 so easily when it came to the playerbase. I will say from personal experience that the CvS2 players adapted to SFIV quicker than the 3S players, and that might be part of the reason the game died out a bit faster than 3S.
i joined srk in '09 to lurk the tech and get good at Sf4…
5 years later, I cant stand Sf4, play anime fighters, and mostly post in GD…so yea, I can say I’ve come full circle…