I’m pretty sure ChrisG actually knew what to do with Vergil somewhat, seeing that it’s the guy who’s probably experimented with every character in the game. In any case, it looks like Vergil is taking over for Akuma for good if this week’s Big Two is anything to go by.
Morrigan doesn’t need Akuma any ways. The only thing tatsu really did was help her start the round and Morrigan already has most of the best tools in the game for starting the round any way. Might as well just put someone else on the team that gets great benefits with meter.
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Jay said it best. When you love a game enough to compete pick the top tiers.
That sentiment works for some. Others have found success competing doing otherwise.
I use top tier like Viper…then mix it up with 2 mid tiers like Doom and Strider.
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you can explore a game with its low tiers to a certain point, but the fact is you jut won’t be able to do everything the game’s engine allows you to do. Also if you are competing you are just going to work twice as hard to win and if you are competing to win it just makes less sense to stubbornly stick to low tiers.
Nope
I lol’d. I agree too, but mostly, I lol’d.
I know the 6-8 character thing is a slight towards MvC2 w/o saying it but here’s a few really good posts about MvC2 character variety (ignores different combos of characters play different styles).
Was that serious? Last I heard Strange and Ryu weren’t top tier. And they’ve won majors after Evo.
I don’t really agree with this. When you love a game enough, pick the characters you love.
Especially in a game like marvel where everyone’s broken?
Yes lets ignore the rest of their team composition and look at just that singular character.
Team compositions and pick top tiers to win are different.
Edit: By this I mean to say I feel that points are getting mixed up. When disagreed with my original comment- that although some people think success will only be attained with a team of just top tiers, others have had success doing otherwise- I took that to mean you were saying only teams of top tier characters could be successful.(Sorry if I’m wrong here, but this inference has been what my subsequent responses, including the rest of this one, have been based on). Now you’re saying team composition is what’s making players win, in retort to me mentioning how Strange and Ryu have won majors. If so, you would have made two very different points, the first being only a team full of top tiers can be successful, and now lesser tier characters can win if they’re part of a well composed team.
I’ve had a many posts here (a few more than I’m proud of, I’d rather be playing UMVC3 than arguing over it lol, great thread), but my points have just been about how I feel this game can be more than the dominance of only top tiers, which is fine if you disagree.
I don’t always win but I do I use “Vergil, Doom and Morrigan”. Stay White my friends.
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I reading this thread over again. You guys really think this game will be like Marvel 2?
Lets compare the two and correct me if Im wrong:
Marvel 2:
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[]You could die in one touch, but required either a DHC, glitches, both of those together, Cable, Tron assist and MAYBE Ironman. Only a select few could do it in Marvel 2.
[]Select few characters have infinites that can be done on the entire cast. They weren’t even real infinites, since you fly out after a certain amount of hits. Some weren’t even practical.
[]You can call assist once per combo so combos were limited. Couldn’t get as much damage.
[]The characters in this game were thrown together and put in one system, making some character practically useless.
[]Guardbreaks were almost guaranteed and crippled entire teams. Only certain character really benefitted from them (Cable, Ironman, Magneto, maybe a little more).
[]Only certain characters have unblockables.
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UMVC3:
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[]More than half the cast can kill in one touch, some with one meter.
[]More than half the cast has infinites, from a TAC.
[]Hit stun deterioration (excuse my spelling if Im wrong, too lazy to research it) attempted to save people from shit like infinites and/or super long loops. Though it failed in the long run, it still fulfill its purpose in this game.
[]You can call both assist during combos, to maximize damage (probably leading to death, this IS Marvel 3).
[]The character were re-done and made for this game. Everybody got some bullshit.
[]Everybody in the end game will have a guardbreak set-up.
[]Everybody has unblockables with a low assist or an overhead assist.
[]X-factor will make sure that every bum ass character and player has a chance to win in this dumbass game.
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In short, this game will not evolve to a 6-8 character game, unless something ridiculous comes out the woodwork.
You might be being sarcastic and I missed it as you post really intelligently.
I think it’s pretty silly to think of characters in tiers on their own. That team has really good synergy and is clearly one of the best teams in the game. One of the best point characters backed by her best assist Vajra plus Doom who extends her combos to ToDs and who also benefits from Strider greatly. Its a top tier team. There is no way that Viper/Morrigan,/Zero would be more “tier-whorish” (not that I have a problem with choosing top tier) when as a team it clearly has less synergy and is much worse.
EDIT: Actually I think I did miss it
If somehow this game evolves into a 6 character game like marvel 2, i’d probably stop playing. Variety is very important. And this is coming from someone that loved marvel 2.
Well Marvel 2 still had variety in teams even if there wasn’t as much variety in characters. Switching the order or placement of those 6 created different playstyles for the teams.
After watching Marvel 2 again…it’s pretty amazing how good Strider was once he got going. It was like a more rushdown centric morridoom where there was pretty much no way to ever run out of meter. Once he popped off that was it. If you could build meter on whiff like in MVC2 Morridoom would have run the game already instead of just being really good.
Sentinel + Vajra assist was pretty durp in that game too. LOL.
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i think people underestimate the fact that people like certain characters that are top tier.
everyone expects people to go out and find new team but if you dont like those characters you cant put lab time into them to figure out new teams and tech.
simple as that.
i dont like arthur, dont like shumma or nemesis or chris enough to make teams for them
like watching/playing mags
add that on to the fact that people with sharper minds are finding tech for you team maybe every other week
that lowers incentive to go to work
especially if you tried before and your tech is old
if you dont like the character why would you put time into advancing them
I remember hearing from people that in mvc2 low tiers teach you how “not” to play the game. Mvc2 is like a mma/cage fight you come in with whatever you have and one mistake can mean the match, but if you pick low tier you’re in theory stuck both jabbing, no kicks grabs or use of any other moves just jabs… have fun jabbing with Jill while I armbar with my cable.
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