Plus someone tweeted that Tokido supposedly said he would be done with SFV and go back to IV after a year (right before the game launched) and well…yeah that’s probably not gonna happen now.
V sucks, but it’s foundation is good.
It’s funny because slowly but surely this is reminding me of my time when I used to play PSU from Sega.
Amazinngggg game, good storyline when it got to the depth and had a great future ahead of it if cared for right. However Sega of America fucked up update after update, took too much time acting upon hackers or fixing glitches, giving rehash after rehash missions and etc. The game was years in and nothing was really new until the first expansion. And the only thing new then was really a handful of bosses and the additional storyline that you had to be online for to play.
SFV has a good base and potential to get better, but it’s being ran by crapcom.
If I don’t enjoy ibuki outta this game, I’m honestly gone with the wind and going back to 3s or playing some animu shit like melty blood or suffer at sucking in GG for a long time to come.
that or get epic in dat new KAY OH EFFS
Relevant https://clips.twitch.tv/nicktanella/AttractiveStingrayDeIlluminati
@acidic idk man i just told you what he said. If anyone wants to find the timestamp, go check the animeilluminati archives.
I’m actually more interested in and having more fun at learning cvs2.
People were saying the same thing about SF4… I feel like it’s 2009 all over again.
History repeating itself? PREDICTABO
I quite like the feel of this game over SF4. It’s like SF2+ IMO. Straight fundamentals and honesty.
I will say that the “soul” of the game in how every character can approach a match doesn’t feel par with Vanilla SF4(Not gonna compare this to USF4 a game that has 40 characters and was the last edition), but they can add gameplay mechanics as needed. The only question is if the displeased crowd has the patience to give the game a chance to evolve.
Never say never…
I honestly do not why people agree with you when you are basically saying it doesn’t matter how shit SFV is as long as there’s enough people and Capcom can toss money…
And if that’s the case, EVERYONE from every other Fighting Game Company would be playing SFV by now…
Well I didn’t say never, so I guess it’ll work out.
You’re being obtuse.
Fighting Games are games that need a community to survive. Beyond the money, there’s the simple fact that to play a fighting game, you need an opponent. The larger a community, the more opponents, and (in general) the higher the level of play.
Games rarely end up having a lot of people play them because they are shit. They may buy the shit game because it’s got good marketing, but if the game play isn’t good, they won’t stay to play. Case in point MKX.
So if there’s enough people playing, that’s evidence enough that SFV is a good game.
People are just not used to the new era of gaming where you get content over time. Other than Capcom making people overpay for what they only had at launch, by what they’re already handing us in July we should be set for a pretty robust game by February which would be only exactly a year. That’s with only having to pay that initial 60 for the gameplay with no extra version (Guilty Gear…) for the same retail price. Paid stuff is all cosmetic which works for me (and worked for DOA which supposedly has 500 to a thousand dollars or more worth of cosmetic content).
Although its obvious Sony didn’t spend as much money to help them make this game as I thought, this game has progressed with higher quality content faster than KI ever would have been able to. KI just doesn’t have the team to do something with the level of production of SFV’s story or release it anywhere near as quickly.
5,000 people don’t lie. Something with this game was done right if people are driving and flying double digit hours to play and watch this game for 3 days in one of the hottest places in America. Evo with just SFV’s players alone is going to be right insane and there’s there’s another 2 to 3,000 people entering for just the Smash games. Which I imagine a high percentage of them aren’t even one of the 5,000 SFV players. Evo is going to be stupid fuck insane for V and the other games. I’m going pretty much literally just to see what that many people looks like for a fighting game event.
I wouldn’t say that. People are very used to those type of games where you get content over time. MMOs aren’t new by a longshot with the spoonfed matter of content. It’s a new concept in the fighting game scene, so I do agree it’s something they should’ve adapted to a long time ago instead of re-releasing the same game with bonus content, but we’re just entering the gaming era where there’s competent enough consoles to handle online play with games that can handle updates and use the harddrive of the machine over time to handle all the data.
I think the issue of the matter is - (While I never played the new KI.) people are banking up enough to bring up KI in it’s level of competence for a game that was LONG awaited for a revival and not nearly expected to fare as well as big fighting game scene games (Street Fighter.) and yet it’s doing fairly well (I’m assuming here.) since people are playing it i guess. Even if it isn’t, for a game which wouldn’t have a chance in hell compared to a company that should be able to do a lotta shit, is well known and had sony backing them - the reasoning is clear that capcom underachieved in many expectations there.
5000 people isn’t a lot in comparison to how many people there are all over the world and it’s the only alternative if you want to play SF, so you’re forced to play it if you like it or not to stay within the competitive scene. 5k for EVO is huge for this game, I’ll give it that, but it’s the first EVO for the game. Lets see how it does the next couple of years and hopefully see it keep growing bigger and better. I think it’s exciting that everyone is going to this, but i wouldn’t be surprised that EVO grows every year as well as it’s seen as one of the biggest american video game fighting tournaments.
So I can’t really say those words and numbers speak for SFV to grace it as a good game, but I do think the publicity of if it goes over WELL at evo will most likely boost activity and give the game a longer life - giving more time for people to patiently wait for capcom to fix shit ASAP.
Yeah I don’t think the number of entrants at Evo really speaks about the quality of the game. I feel like more and more people are gonna go to Evo no matter what just because the FGC itself grows bigger every year. Newer people are gonna gravitate towards SFV the most because it’s always been the main event series at FGC events regardless of the current game’s quality.
There’s also the goodwill KI earned by having a remarkably non-scummy approach to the free-to-play business model. Sure, you’re paying more for all the KI content than SFV even now (I think the Ultra pack is like 5-10 bucks more?), but that retroactively gives you everything (except the one character they kept out of it because it was explicitly unique with pre-orders and they didn’t want to go back on their word) for every season, all future updates, and a bunch of extra stuff they never promised you in the first place to boot. If Iron Galaxy were to tell me I needed to shell out more money for future updates, sight unseen, I would probably be inclined to do it because I got more than I was promised for what I already paid. A little bit of customer service goes a long way towards not making me a cynical motherfucker.
And while I’m at it, huge shoutout to Skullgirls for essentially losing money on me by not charging me for character DLC when they probably should have. It’s that kind of stuff that gets me to pay for extra things I don’t normally buy, like color packs. Whatever Lab Zero is selling, I will not only buy, but I will shill it relentlessly. [details=Spoiler]By the way, Indivisible is still on IndieGogo’s InDemand.[/details]
Thats the thing. Im not even going so far to say the reason 5000 people are there is that the game is factually good in a competitive sense. Even though that’s what I agree with.
Im just saying like acidic said, that 5000 people don’t show up for something that is bad. Everything has room for improvement. The old SF ganes still could have been improved, but 5000 dont dedicate 3 days of their life for Rise of the Robots even if its the HD 4K high poly count edition
And of course 5000 people isn’t a lot to the whole world. SFV isn’t going top entrants for Prince’s final concert. Its Prince
just
Sfv doesn’t feel like sf2 at all. I love HF and ST and I’m not feeling v right now.
The only thing they have in common is that they are buttonsy. But still, they are different in that regard too.
Buttonsiness in 2 was about pressure.
In v its just about being random.
All I’m gonna say is that you’d be surprised. Lol
Well I mean just look at Smash. 1500 people still show up for its oldest game which like an ST or CVS2 is heralded among the best in the series for competition. The new Smash is like V where some veteran players denounce it, but it’s overall the highest entrant Smash game because its solid enough and has a better entry barrier for competition. Then theres Brawl which has been left in the dust and generally considered not as necessary for competition with whats out now.
SFV is like your Smash 4. Whether you agree with its competitive merits or not, the entry barrier is better than previous games while still being functionally competitive and is the only game with new content being released to keep things fresh.
The big difference from Smash is that SF players let a few tournament organizers tell them they have to play the new game and they barely bat an eye. Whereas the Smash community literally took a stand to continue the old game. SF players won’t do that. They just play the new game and complain like war veterans.
Figures it’d be the SF4 cast mostly throwing a bitch. Let’s get something clear. A long time ago the people who’ve been doing this for a minute figured something out:
It is better to play than not.
So if there was no CPT, we’d still be playing. how do we know? Because an incredible amount of people put up with SF4 regardless of how much they didn’t like it. Its the reason why so many people grin and bear random games they when they can’t play the one they like.
No amount of money or lack there of thrown by capcom is going to compel us to play or not play. We just play.
I’m pretty sure SnakeEyez would fall under ST/HDR more so than simply being a SF4 player.