If Fei Long is so tournament viable

Yeah I think Highland hit the nail on the head. If you are doing it visually then you’re probably not hitting the 1 frame links anyway so try to do it by muscle memory. I don’t really hit the HK CW cl.HP consistently nor do I hit cr.LP x N into rekkas 100% of the time… ever. I usually stick to more reliable combos unless I absolutely have to go for one of those.

I will be attending NY Comic Con. I hope to see Seth there and break his arm untill he gives me some info on changes made to Fei LOL. Capcom has confirmed SSFIVAE wont be there but MvC3, this sucks because I would hve picked Fei and gave all us Fei fans a breakdown on any rumors. So maybe Seth can spill the beans or give hints to what changes they have in store for Fei.

My friend it is the PS3 not the LCD tv’s or anything else. The PS3 version has a 2 frame input delay. I hate playing Super on my PS3 for this reason. Sucks that most tournaments are going to be held on PS3, I know when I finally attend one and its on the the PS3 I would need to play man many casuals to some how try to get used to the delay. Again I hate Super for the PS3. Im dont with my rant

That’s interesting, I played PS3 version at EVO and didn’t notice anything… Then again I didn’t throw out too many one-frame link combos. Most of it was just hit and punish haha.

Yesss, you’re the man. Don’t break too many limbs haha.

The way I adjusted at Evo to the timing was by doing a nonstop 12+ hours of gameplay over and over on an Asus monitor so my hands became uber warm/conditioned and adjusted to the timing.

TBH, the best thing to do when going to a local tournament is by getting there as early as possible before the tournament even starts. Play casuals or grab a setup real quick and take a bit to just warm up in the training room. I’ve seen alot of people do this at ECT2. People were attempting to do this at Evo but the tournament was too fast paced for anyone to really sit down and hit casuals or warm up at all really.

Here are some independent test

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I know, I was at ECT2 and almost made it out of my bracket. I beat sky for a match, won the next round and then totally choked on match-point before getting blown up by iloveu.

The problem is that a lot of tourneys don’t even have like just CRT’s every tourney I’ve been to there seems to be a hodge-podge of TV’s. Some are CRTS, some are monitors, ECT. There’s just like NO standard and sometimes the lag is just enough for you to miss that combo.

Samurai, the problem is that some of those combos are CRUCIAL to win match-ups. I don’t use cl.FP after CW. There are spacing issues with it. I dunno how many of you have noticed this but Fei’s normals have terrible spacing detection. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve landed an Tenshin on Chun or Rufus and gotten far FP instead of cl.FP.

Anways I use CW >cr.lk>St.lp>cr.lp into rekkas. In a tourney match against any character with a fireball you NEED to nail that combo. Not beign able to do so is not only frustrating but crippling as well.

I don’t have a PS3 so it makes it even more impossible to adjust to the timing differences but they are there and I know my muscle memory is right. I never miss that link any other time. Then again, it could just be me choking lol. I tend to do that, espcially after I make top 8.

No thats PS3. Your muscle memory is fine for xbox but with the PS3 you have to be a hair faster. I heard Sanford Kelly hates playing on the PS3 as well as Justin Wong but I guess we all have to get used to it as more tournaments are being held on PS3. Take a look at the videos I posted so you can see the delay

any1 else find it funny that with these new godsgarden vids of magos fei, ppl are calling him broken an shit? i say nerf mago, dudes unreal right now.

Agree he is Godlike! He hits the cl.hp out of the CW 99.99% of the time. Fei doesnt need nerfs. Mago stop using Sagat why? Because Sagat got nerfed. Is that simple, the top players will not run with bottom tier characters. Those players will only use top tier characters to have the best chance of winning. Fei is middle of the pack and requires tons of skill to be affective with him. Mago has those skills. But lets be real here, he will not win this tournament. We all seen he choked when he had Daigo in there match. Mago has all the skills in the world but i will be more then surprised if he wins this. Lets be real we all know Fei has his limitations.

feis got the tools to beat ryu, but at that lvl its not the characters who are winning, that shits all because diagos friggin psychic.

This is just my fear right here…I’m fine with Fei Long as he is now(in SF4 PC, though hes pretty much the same in SSF4 from what I’ve been told). Not that much online or representation, but he has some solid tournament players maining him…what I don’t want is for him to boost up the charts because of this, and have everyone and his mother playing him, and seeing Chicken Wings and Flame Kics everywhere =S

I’m probably just being stupid(like how I said in my thinking about tiers too much thread on the Newbie forum), but I like having a somewhat unique character to play with and I don’t want that ruined. Am I being an idiot here, or is my previous MMO gameplay experience seeping through here?

lol, where are people calling him broken? Link me to them so I can set them straight.

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lol, please do Nyoronoru, before this shit gets out of hand. lol

hell i guess every uncommon used character in a tournament that does well is now broken. Its always funny for people to say these things when all they do is watch…but don’t play the character their damn selves, then they’d learn people using Fei have to work 4 to 5 times hard than the other guy on the screen thats using Ryu, Balrog, Rufus, Dhalsim, Bison,Guile, etc… This game seems to cater to characters who can be strong defenisve and damaging at the sametime. if your using an offense oriented character that has to be in your face then you have an uphill battle

there was a cammy player in the video thread saying hes broken because of the mp>cw punish on her, as well on some youtube vids of magos fei. mostly scrubs who dont understand wats going on im sure. with mago being the acceptance all the other ppl doing well in tournies with fei were maining him during vanilla, and they were doing well with him in vanilla, of course there gunna be wrecking ppl with fei being better in super.

Addition by subtraction. Fei didn’t change, the people that beat Fei for free did. couple that with the damage nerf everyone received but fei long, and fei’s bad damage is now “okay” damage by the standard. And if you take HK CW, that’s like taking Ryu’s Forward Fierce.

Good pressure game. one good reversal guess doesn’t negate all the work you just put in to getting sagat to 40%.

Good god, my ears bleed when scrubs call Fei Long broken on Live. Ever want to reach through a screen and slap someone across the face? Those are the moments. Fei Long is a good character, but he’s more challenging to play than most characters. He doesn’t have an easy ride. We all have to put in twice as much effort to win our matches.

But as far as Tournaments go, it’s all a popularity contest. The whole game is. The trick to competing well in a tournament is to KEEP YOUR COOL. It’s a lot easier to win a match in casuals than in serious. Because you are a lot more confident. Tournament nerves kills people. I have no idea how people like Daigo manage to keep there cool.

Today is the day. I’ll bring my Fei, good or bad, to my first tournament. I hope to get back here with some successful videos.
Be water, my friend.

wicked tip! i’ve been trying to master the cl.HP forever…i think i’ll try this alternative