That we have both Matriharpy and Cisco in here in concert automatically dooms this thread to failure. The future Dr.Matriharpy would do well to learn just why Intelligent Design has ZERO place in matters regarding science, it isn’t science period.
(I “like” how everyone realizes Fem!Voldemort is probably a troll, calls “her” such and yet still pays attention to “her”. Way to fail the Wizarding World, guys.)
Allah Buddha Christ, why are you punishing yourself by trying to “debate” with people like Cisco and Hecatomb again, goodm0urning? Did you murder some hookers lately that I don’t know about or something? You really don’t deserve this fate.
If that was the actual process, then we’d have very few people who could survive being elected officials and even fewer who would want to be such.
Not that this would be a bad thing. Quite the opposite.
As for the article itself, the only thing I’m facepalming over is the fact that this guy is over a Science committee and a (medical) doctor, not that he holds such an unfortunately common belief in and of itself. Unfortunately, neither of those facts surprise me either due to the lovely person that is Bill Frist (or whatever that coward’s name is/was) and the general nature of the current Republican party. It’s why I can understand him not being opposed by Democrats (even if I was acting like they cared or were actually that much better).
"Strange! that you should not have suspected years ago – centuries, ages, eons, ago! – for you have existed, companionless, through all the eternities. Strange, indeed, that you should not have suspected that your universe and its contents were only dreams, visions, fiction! Strange, because they are so frankly and hysterically insane – like all dreams: a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell – mouths mercy and invented hell – mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man’s acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!..
“You perceive, *now, *that these things are all impossible except in a dream. You perceive that they are pure and puerile insanities, the silly creations of an imagination that is not conscious of its freaks – in a word, that they are a dream, and you the maker of it. The dream-marks are all present; you should have recognized them earlier.”-No. 44, New Series 864962
Did that just BLOW YOUR MINDS???
Evolution has to be somewhat true, I mean that’s why we have [S]-ape and chimp people [/S] human being poets like Souljah Boy.
No comparison to an Chimp here folks.
http://videos.brokencurve.com.s3.amazonaws.com/d7ac1009afff47eaae1b0b54e62c5d6e.jpg
My friend:
Notice how nobody else deigned to even acknowledge that Cisco posted?
This is proof of evolution.
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Stop relapsing, good sir. 
At least my brain can handle flashing colors.
This makes me really angry. I was totally going to come in and say some shit but this video absolutely ruined my night.
All this talk about Creationism vs. Evolution reminded me about a thread way back that asked what we thought would happen if aliens did in fact show up on our planet. I believe that even if they were to actually blow our minds wide open on the universe there would be people who just wouldn’t accept it regardless and would have serious mental breakdowns. Yeah…I can literally see the pandemonium…the chaos…people trying to do anything in their power to ‘repress’ what’s in front of them. Anyways, carry on.
I assumed io posted that vid ironically. I don’t see how anyone could take that seriously.
Did I give the man too much credit?
You are misinterpreting that science book too much. First of all, i never said the “energy” was created, i’m saying that energy was transposed to cause the natural energy in our universe, or make it expand at least to form our universe. It’s just like explaining the energy/universe being like a seed, that started off as something small then later on grew (and continues to do so as well). Nevertheless, the point is that energy is still needed from a source to cause the universe. The expanding theory is not being contradicted in my post. That’s a different argument. Some people believe that the universe was created after a bang (instant after some clash of shit) while the other side believes the beginning happened the way you put it. No matter if you believe that expansion or a collision, point being is the universe did have a start. If you never heard that the universe had a finite being (i don’t know what you mean by finite) then read Einstein’s work on the theory of relativity, because that theory helped him see that the universe indeed had a start. Again, the belief of it happening after an instant bang or starting off into a small point that eventually grew/evolved is up to you. I am one of those who does agree on the expansion part just so you know. If you saw my great posts during the past such as during the 2005-2007 threads, you would know that i highly support the theory of expansion due to how logical and rich in basis it is.
I believe in evolution, not just for the beings of the earth but also everything in our universe therefore i don’t deny that the universe began from the size of a dot then expanded to what it is now nor have i argued against.
But i know the majority of atheists here want to make me look wrong and intellectually inferior - that i shouldn’t be replied too at all because of the salt of my belt.
Einstein’s Theory of relativity is currently being debated, as it hinges on the assumption that the speed of light is a constant. Evidence is starting to be gathered that may or may not contradict this, as it is beginning to look like gravity affects the speed of light.
Just saying, don’t place too much emphasis on Einstein. The scientific method adjusts it’s view based on observation. Faith and belief do not. What sounds more logical?
It’s not just Einstein who talked about the universe having a beginning. Every Scientist, even atheists like Hawking to frauds like Dawkins don’t deny that the Universe indeed had a beginning. The theory of relativity is not actually about the origin of the universe, i’m just saying that Einstein’s production of that confirmed to him that the universe had a beginning so whatever debate is going on with the TOR it’s not touching the subject of the universe having a beginning, which is already mathematically legit. .
‘Faith’ is not what seperates science from ‘god’ because science requires faith that what we observe is objective (yet every observation is subjective). The difference is is that science has a proven track record so science has a significantly smaller element of faith within it (i.e ‘god’ is 100% faith whereas science is 99% faith; 1% is significant enough to consider science a superior mode of thinking than ‘god’). Of course it could be argued that science is 100% faith because it is based on the assumption that what we observe is objective, but i’d rather spend my time making society better than wasting my whole life discussing philosophy.
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Well if he put it on an ipad nobody would be able to read it until now.
I think one of the issues is that people confuse evolution with Darwinism. While connected not necessarily the same.
As far as scrutinizing evolution we have come to observe that evolution within a species does exist, because frankly it can occur in a relatively short amount of time. Transmutation of species however is almost impossible to observe since it takes so long and thus the evidence of such isn’t exactly clear. Unlike other sciences where theories can be immediately observed, recreated in the lab or proven mathematically many aspects of evolution are practically impossible to verify.
One of the aspects of evolution that “creationists” are against is specifically man from ape, (and potentially life from non life) which to be honest is cloudy at best. With evidence that civilization is far older than previously believed and possible evidence that modern homo sapiens may have existed in prehistoric times I can’t blame somebody for questioning the accuracy of some aspects of the theory of evolution.
That said pretending evolution does not exist at all is completely ridiculous.
Yeah… You took my post too literally. My point was summed up in the last sentence, being that previously accepted scientific models are always open to debate and change based on New information. Organised faiths don’t allow this. They stubbornly refuse to adapt and change I’m the face of new info. Faith is the scrub of universal models.
I do believe this goes here:
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I don’t get how creationists don’t believe in dinosaurs. There are chapters of the bible chronicling Jesus’ life between the time he was born and when he became an adult (as opposed to what we have now in the bible, which is like going from Bardock, Father Of Goku STRAIGHT to DbZ, ep 1, and skipping Dragonball)…possible because he, despite being divine and having powers, was JUST AS FLAWED as a normal child, and people like to think of Jesus as perfect and never losing his temper or doing something petty…like blinding people, or making them fall to the ground dead for little things like accidentally bumping his arm as they walked past him. ANYwho, I said the opening sentence because of this: there is part of these deleted chapters where young Jesus went into a valley with his friends (who may or may not have been his friends out of fear of what he would do to him if they avoided him. He mellowed with time, just like a normal man) and tamed DRAGONS. Not snakes, but big-ass four-legged reptiles. Sounds like dinosaurs to me.
Cept dinosaurs weren’t reptiles…