as i’ve said before, you can drop the c.H and just do a lunar phase.
also my trick to getting the first lunar phase to land is to backdash right before you do it
When it comes to using spiral swords there aren’t any straight up perfect guarantees on making it happen. They are simply finnicky combos that you need to practice a lot before you are going to feel comfortable with em. If you want to do the alternative combo that seems to be a bit more reliable (at least for me, ymmv) you can do this portion for the loop.
I’m gonna be lazy this morning and not use the combo notation smileys, i apologize.
BNB into J.2H, Call OTG assist, release round trip, 2H, 236L, Spiral Swords, (charge round trip), Lunar Phase, delay, release round trip, 2H, 236L, Spiral Swords, (charge round trip), Lunar Phase, delay, release round trip, 2H, Lunar Phase, 3H OTG. (Dimension slash if you have bar to spend or character isn’t dead, otherwise trick down for a reset opportunity).
After the 2nd spiral swords you simply do a 2H into lunar phase after you use round trip to juggle. The roundtrip keeps them pinned and greatly lowers the chance of them falling out. When I do this combo i end up with somewhere around 910k-935k depending on character size for 2 meters. If you use a 3rd meter and do dimension slash you can get anywhere from 1.03 mil to 1.1 mil depending on character size and how many times Dimension slash hits. You could do 3 reps of spiral sword, but at that point you are over-complicating a combo that kills a lot of the cast, and if you intend to do 3 spiral sword reps into dimension slash, then you could have just done a BnB into devil trigger and do level 3 for the same or better damamge without any of the difficulty.
For me this version is a lot more consistent especially against the smaller characters. I’m sure there are even better ways to optimize this and make it more user friendly, but only time well tell.
On a side note: Sage - how exactly do you do judgement cut and then go directly into lunar phase to omit that last 2H? Everytime I try it the lunar phase never comes out in time to juggle. Maybe i just don’t understand the timing for inputting it after judgement cut.
For those who are using Vergil + Dormammu (Unsure if I am the only one except for Winrich haha) I’ve been trying to time a Dimension Slash into Stalking Flare, hard tag back into Vergil, trick up (the heavy version) then Helm Breaker into another Dimension Slash but I’ve been having problems getting it consistently. When DHCing into Stalking Flare, sometimes it hits the opponent so slowly upwards that it provides enough time to do so but sometimes the Flare just hits them so fast and dissipates quickly. I’ll try to figure out what causes this (I think it’s when the Flare hits the opponent from the bottom and carries them upwards which means DHC-ing at Dimension Slash’s peak to make sure they are as high as possible but will need more time in the lab.
Sometimes Dormammu appears a little bit farther from the corner making the Stalking Flare not combo whatsoever which makes me think that Vergil’s Dimension Slash’s properties is just him moving around the screen a’la Wesker/MVC2 Spidey since Dormammu usually appears where your point character was last. Hmm…going to have to test out the optimal time to DHC as well then.
BTW, this is purely for style since Vergil basically has an infinite once he has the meters for a Spiral Swords+Round Trip loop (3 should be enough to kill anyone in the cast) but sometimes you just feel like aiming for that SSS rank. 
Notations?
it’s just late timing, gotta delay it a bit
edit: or i guess in your case you need to do it earlier. i’ll see if i can get a video of it later
Word. I’d like to get both options down since going into dimension slash against bigger characters tends to pump out better damage.
I see alot of talk about characters dropping out of Lunar Phase, theres actually a way to make the best of a “about to drop out of lunar phase because they have ended up behind you in the move somehow” situation. In the case where you are hitting your opponent with Lunar Phase, and you can tell they are about to drop out, you can actually burn 1 meter and super cancel your Lunar phase mid air into Dimension Slash, provided you dont cancel it too late (at the point where lunar phase stops hitting rapidly on decent) it will always combo no matter how far into hit stun scaling youve gone.
Use Wesker OTG
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Hey guys I’m havin trouble gettin the j.M, J.H, j. S after L. srk ~ Teleport. Any suggestions? Thanks
You’re probably doing j.M too late and it’s causing you to whiff.
After you teleport cancel, super jump and pretty much immediately go into the j.MHS chain. It feels counter intuitive but you’re supposed to do it a lot earlier than it feels like you should.
are you super jumping
Alright I’m starting the update now which is later than I had anticipated but it will be done by sunday.
Tried all the suggestions on getting the last hit of LP to hit during ramza’s solo bnb, and it’s not working too well. Anyone have any other suggestions? The most consistent thing I found that works is delaying SS after judgement cut, once the char is about chest level you pop SS and all hits of LP will hit. It’s consistent but the timing is a bitch.
Try again and again with more emphasis on the suggestion to slow down the SRK input so he moves forward and crouches a bit before the LP – you should be able to get it 100% after experimenting with that method for a few hours. It’s the only thing I think about doing when I do it and I’ve got it down 99% in matches even against rocket raccoon XD
Easiest way for me to get Lunar Phase Consistently during Spiral Swords combos. Is to make sure you do cr.H > Judgment Cut > Cr.H > Spiral Sword Activation. Throwing in a crouching Heavy before every Spiral Swords or Lunar Phase pretty much leads to tighter timing, but 100% consistency.
Awesome! I tried that method earlier but still ran into the same problems, but I went back into training and messed around with your suggestion and I think I figured it out. I input the DP motion slow enough that he takes a step forward and crouches, but put a little emphasis on the crouching part of the motion and hold it for about half a second. Now LP seems to be connecting majority of the time.
You have to charge L in the first c.L to make time to round trip charge.
here’s my method for ramza’s combo
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when i was recording it i had a hard time getting the second lunar phase to hit arthur, so im going to test it on some other small characters. could have been a timing issue (im kind of hung over), but the c.H might be necessary on a per-character basis.
Hey guys, what good combos can Vergil get with Dante’s Jam session assist?
whats the inputs for Ramza’s combo… Virgil’s need to know bnb? I just started to pick up virgil