5h is a 10 frame move you can not react to that shit. It straight up cuts the missile.
I meant Vergil reacting to the slow ass missile. The startup of the missile is even longer than it seems because it has to travel far enough to reach Vergil whereas him, not so much.
Doesnāt help that all of IMās specials are projectiles, lol.
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You gotta somehow manage to hit him with c.L or c.M. Thatās basically all you can do.
I was responding to the guy who suggested doing x factor. Anyhow the best bet in the matchup is falling with j.s on them while they have swords up as it will cleanly hit vergil before you reach the swords, if he blocks you are fucked but you dont have much else. Random level 3 is a very sadly necessary option sometimes.
Even though the SRK IronMan Forums havenāt been very active I just wanna consider is there any match-up where CR H into Fly H unfly H is really helpful because that isnāt a bad hit confirm with Drones.I was thinking it might be really helpful in the haggar match-up
I use Cr.H to zone cancel into unibeam, assist call, repulsar blast and bait for superjump confirm with the help of assist. Fly H unfly H on the ground seems good in theory but in practice not so much imo although bunny hop H variation I found to be a more useful zoning tool and keep away.
Also I have recently Realized its better to do TK unibeam against big bodies it really makes it super hard for them to get in like I never really try to do Ground Zoning against hulk way more dangerous but TK unibeam make it hard for him to hop soo he has to try to jump which is what IronMan wants
One extremely good tool I have never seen any Iron man use is JH, Ju+h or JD.H x into unibeam or smart bomb then back out or go in with air dash air m or cr.l/st.l very good against selective characters like sentinel, spider man putting normal and projectile in the way.
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One match-up I feel is extremely hard for IronMan is Thor like it seems like you gotta get a lucky hit because soo many of his stuff blows up the things that make IronMan Viable aka Repulsor blast,Air Smart Bomb ect.
I play both and I would agree that Thor has the advantage.
Iron man can however hit Thor out of charging Mighty Strikes with j.h if theyāre sloppy and heās well equipped to hit Thor out of the air at sj height for a full convert as well.
Keep the specials to a minimum and stick to sj add h to dictate the match. H is your best friend in this match because you can make Thor uncomfortable at the range where he normally excels.
Remember that Thor is absolutely awful up close so if you can get close, things get much easier.
J-uh is good against thor to convert.
been noticing something lately i actually thing ironman best tool is up-H for various reason.
I dunno if itās his best, but itās awesome for converting from beneath at sj height.
Beats pretty much all air normals in the game from below.
kk thnx 4 the help
Whatās the general gameplan now with IM in neutral now? Assume that Iām running him second with log trap behind that, I canāt seem to figure out a good plan for him. Some players I see do SJ smartbombs -> ADD j.S or some combination of that. Am I supposed to turtle them out in the air until they come close? And at that time Doom or Magneto will either tridash underneath me and thereās nothing I can do at that point. What do you guys usually do?
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SJ Smart Bombs is good to annoy someone but dont do it too often but to be honest since i use drones i try and create a heavy ground based zoning game and force the person to make a mistake and either SJ and come in with a button soo i can repulsor or do a SJ Hitconfirm but to be honest i just kinda picked ironman back up and i cant really say what i have done to change really. I mean like i added TK unibeam into Neutral since its more safe the ground unibeam most of the time.Once i get some more gameplay in ill try to answer it better 4 u.
Usually I try to pin people down into a corner with an assistā¦and do a jump low dash in mashing medium(it makes a quick double overhead that scares people). Man all of Ironmanās mediums are crazy to me. Someone jumping after you go after them with jump mediumā¦ I swear by medium now lol if I want to go offense with IM that is my button. Haggar coming in to pipe jump as he does hit em with some MMHS land and continue block string or hit string if blocking go to missile and unibeam follow up. With smart bombs you have to be aware of the players position and character how he can punish itā¦I usually smart bomb after I poke someone in the air with a move and they have to land and recover in the area I jump up to smart bomb then I go in with a projectile assist. Do not ever smart bomb when someone is just under you and you donāt have an assist covering the ground. Well Iāll stop for now.
So Since I finally decided to pick up IronMan again I decided to try and find some stuff vs morrigan doom and I found out that Ironman can run out morridoom astrol vision missiles time similar to how thor can. If you use the unibeams to snipe the first few missiles and then take a missile and tech roll back and air dash up you can use the unibeams to snipe out all the missiles. Here a example of what I speak of. The time mark is about 1:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmj2cRS5cE