I can't control it! - The Phoenix Thread

[Jet_Set_Dizzy]

Good shit. It will definitely be useful then.

[frustratedsquirrel]

He cancelled it into a grab special in that first video though.

[crimsonspider89]

LOL, yeah, confirmed that Thor can cancel it into a block or special. Let the baiting begin.

[Windsagio]

He cancelled it into a grab special in that first video though.

If you look, he actually twitches a bit and THEN goes into the grab. The input actually broke the motion. It’s really 6/half dozen tho’

This is really thor discussion tho >>

[Guy]

Just to end it, you can cancel it into anything peeps. Works just like Felicia’s (even has the same motion ffs). Remember everyone doing it randomly before?

[xShonuffx]

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Wakes up
Looks around

I thought this was the Pheonix Thread.

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[Robo-mitsu]

Did you lose your way from the front page?

[Flashy_Nights]

^Lol

[d3v]

Q&S with Seth from Unity.

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1. Since Phoenix has a very low health what advice could you give us on how using her?

Don’t get hit Sounds like I’m kidding, but I’m not. She’s a beast on offense, but can’t take a hit, so yeah. If you’re the kind of player that doesn’t mind taking a few hits to get into that sweet spot, Phoenix is not really for you. You might give similar advice to someone playing Strider in MVC2 (though she doesn’t play like Strider).

2. Her healing shield have some defense proprieties? or only heals her?

No defensive properties, and it only heals her while an opponent is touching the field. That is to say if you try and activate it and run, you won’t heal yourself at all. Healing has to be incorporated into her rush/block strings to have a significant effect.

3. Can we use Dark Phoenix for unlimited time in the training mode?

Yes.

4. Can Dark Phoenix tag out? Will she still loose health if she tag out or will heal like everyone else?

She heals like everybody else when she tags out. When you call D Phoenix as an assist, her assist move also gets her “Dark Phoenix” bonus too (e.g. 2 fireballs instead of one).

5. What the X-Factor does to Dark Phoenix?

X-Factor affects everyone a little differently, but it doesn’t give Phoenix a unique additional buff–she’s already terrifying enough. Oddly the existing videos haven’t really shown off the best bits of what Dark Phoenix is all about, but we’ll correct that soon…

best,

Seth

[Sylari]

^^

2. Uhh… haven’t we seen that it -does- have defensive properties by negating red damage? Or did they take that out?

3. Awesome

4. Also awesome

5. I thought character specific X-factor was deconfirmed?

[Carpark]

she heals like everybody else when she tags out. When you call d phoenix as an assist, **her assist move also gets her “dark phoenix” bonus too **(e.g. 2 fireballs instead of one).

Oh, hell yes! :clapdos:

[c001357]

2. Uhh… haven’t we seen that it -does- have defensive properties by negating red damage? Or did they take that out?

that was most likely an effect of the healing property

[REALPLAYER]

Does this mean that she can lose all her yellow health on point (but keep all her red health), tag when she’s just about to revert back to phoenix, then regain all her yellow health?

[The_Invincible_Swordsman]

1. Since Phoenix has a very low health what advice could you give us on how using her?

Don’t get hit Sounds like I’m kidding, but I’m not. She’s a beast on offense, but can’t take a hit, so yeah. If you’re the kind of player that doesn’t mind taking a few hits to get into that sweet spot, Phoenix is not really for you. You might give similar advice to someone playing Strider in MVC2 (though she doesn’t play like Strider).

I’ve got no problem with this. As long as I can at least take 1 full combo, 1 character combo into hyper into KFC into hyper, then I’ll be satisfied.

2. Her healing shield have some defense proprieties? or only heals her?

No defensive properties, and it only heals her while an opponent is touching the field. That is to say if you try and activate it and run, you won’t heal yourself at all. Healing has to be incorporated into her rush/block strings to have a significant effect.

Hmmm. I wanted it to be able to run away and heal. I guess it’s only fair. But still… It kinda forces her to rushdown when activated. Nuts. So when healing field activates, your opponent knows you’re gonna come after them.

3. Can we use Dark Phoenix for unlimited time in the training mode?

Yes.

Perfect. What a great question to ask. Props to whomever asked it.

4. Can Dark Phoenix tag out? Will she still loose health if she tag out or will heal like everyone else?

She heals like everybody else when she tags out. When you call D Phoenix as an assist, her assist move also gets her “Dark Phoenix” bonus too (e.g. 2 fireballs instead of one).

Another great question and the answer is AWESOME!! I can go into DPh, play keepaway until my red life goes down, and DHC into Hail Storm and keepaway until I get that red life back! HOT MOTHERFUCKING SHIT THAT IS AWESOME!!!

X-Factor affects everyone a little differently, but it doesn’t give Phoenix a unique additional buff–she’s already terrifying enough. Oddly the existing videos haven’t really shown off the best bits of what Dark Phoenix is all about, but we’ll correct that soon…

YES, THERE’S MORE!!! HAHAHAAAAAA!!! :devil:

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

DAMMIT! This month is taking FOREVER!!

[jak_d_ripr]

@The Invincible Swordsman: Well she is kinda a rushdown character, at least thats what s-kill said, so it only makes sense that the healing field would work in conjuction with her rushdown. My hope is you can activate it mid-combo/block string and keep the pressure going whilst regaining your health.

Oh and not to be a downer but I seriously doubt she can survive the average character combo in hyper into kfc into hyper.

[The_Invincible_Swordsman]

@The Invincible Swordsman: Well she is kinda a rushdown character, at least thats what s-kill said, so it only makes sense that the healing field would work in conjuction with her rushdown. My hope is you can activate it mid-combo/block string and keep the pressure going whilst regaining your health.

She looks like both to me. Keepaway and rushdown. I’m sure you can activate HF in a block string but can it be stuffed like the rest of hypers? Can you activate it right after/before you activate an assist? I’d really like to know what the recovery frames are on it. It’s really important.

Oh and not to be a downer but I seriously doubt she can survive the average character combo in hyper into kfc into hyper.

I’m hoping the scaling helps just enough so she can swap out somehow. I know if she has 50% health and gets hit, that it’s over. I just want her to be able to survive a full combo hyper>KFC>hyper from Chun Li if she has 75%+ health.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

A sliver of life is all I’ll need to make a comeback/hold off until I can get Storm/DPh in. Then the game changes.

[The_Invincible_Swordsman]

No idea why that double posted.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

Too bad Juggernaut isn’t in this. I’d love to run her with juggernaut punch assist.

[Shiizu]

S-Kill’s response seems to slightly imply that taking the DPh route is probably better than spamming Healing Field supers. Anyway, looks like DPh is going to be an absolute nightmare to deal with.

[Sensei_Rouzu]

Thought the OP would update the first post with the new info. Shoryuken - Seth Killian Answers Questions about Phoenix in Marvel vs Capcom 3

[Shaeknbaek]

She still deserves a unique buff IMO in X-Factor because DF costs you:

[LIST]
[]5 bars of super
[]Potentially more since unless you hit exactly 5 at the moment of death you’re missing out on extra super gain since meters cap at 5
[]You have to get her killed for it to activate so the opponent will always know when it’s going to happen unlike pretty much any other hyper in the game
[]Mandatory health degeneration in DF mode
[/LIST]

I don’t see why she has to forgo a unique buff like everyone else when you’ve already sacrificed a lot to even get the form.

Unless there are DF specials not yet revealed that are so good they make Dormammu’s lv3 Liberation specials look Dan’s fireball, I don’t think it was so important to not give her additional benefit in XF mode. With low health and degen all she likely needs to do is get hit once at any point as DF and it’s over. Right now I’m pretty much going to tag out ASAP and just use her for an assist when she’s in DF (which even then will be a little difficult to do safely since she’ll have 0 meter to start).