I can't control it! - The Phoenix Thread

You’ve never read the Phoenix arc huh?

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

It’s a fire bird. There are gonna be flames. In the comics, whe she turned into Dark Phoenix there were flames as part of her psychokineses AND when she went into the astral plane. Also, she could transform matter and had the highest form of psychokineses when in Phoenix (AKA she could turn stuff into other stuff). When she destroyed planets, there was flame. When she flew into space there was flame.

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7127/whatif2727jr8.jpg

tut
20 seconds on Wikipedia an it says the phoenix force grants her a cosmic fire

I really hope she doesn’t turn back to Phoenix because that could lead into a lot of abuse with Dark Phoenix. Meter building teams and constant tagging or DHCing DP out when she’s near death has the potential to be retardedly broken. It would definitely make a team composition focus around Dark Phoenix very viable.

It is most likely she will keep Dark Phoenix when she tags out but she doesn’t regen as usual on the sidelines thus making her tag in very powerful but very risky. It would make the most sense by far.

The strategy is simple. Not necessarily the application. Welcome to fighting games.

Ryu’s most simple method of victory in most SF games is utilize low forward > fireball to poke, fireball zone, and SRK when they jump. Good luck beating Daigo or Justin with that.

Also, Magneto doesn’t have glass cannon heath, nor is it sapping away at about 10% every 2 seconds. Will Dark Phoenix have instant overheads and 1 frame crouching shorts? Or a ROM infinite? I doubt it.

Of course it’s easier said than done. But that’s the point of it being you competing against another person.

As for MSP, I highly prefer double snapping and then launch infiniting Psylocke. Much easier way to cripple the team. But easier said than done.

I’m not sure if you’re looking up “Jean Grey” or “Phoenix”, but Phoenix most certainly could use pyrokinesis (it can do a whole hell of a lot more than that) – it just rarely did in the comics unless it was in DP mode. Most of the time it simply used telekinesis and telepathy just like Jean did, only stronger.

Phoenix Force (comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To put it another way – it’s literally able to do anything, and if this game was actually going off canon, it would be able to beat the entire cast at the same time.

Magneto has glass canon health in this game and in mvc2, just to make a correction.

There’s a difference between low health and glass jaw. Y’know, like MvC2: Magneto > Akuma. Or SSFIV: C. Viper > Seth. I dunno about MvC3 yet, but MvC2 Mag’s health is just low, he’s not made of glass.

Check it: http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2010/aug/07/defense-stamina-rankings-marvel-vs-capcom-2/

About 20 years too late for that. :wgrin:

I brought up MSP because it seems like lots of people are presuming that Dark Phoenix will be easily beaten by simple strategies. Keeping away has always been easier in VS games due to air guard, push block, super jumping, assists, etc., but it’s never been foolproof.

She seems like a hybrid between Psylocke and Storm. I just hope her stamina is on par with Psylocke and not Akuma.

Plus with her triangle jump in combo with her extremely fast teleport I would imagine it would be pretty difficult to keep her off of you.

Didn’t a three hit basic combo from Dante do a good chunk of her health? Honestly, her health is probably how they nerfed her, gave uber low health.

Thing is, I’m pretty sure it’s not as simple as that she has uber-low health. There’s a reason she regains health so fast imo, which is that the bubble doesn’t go away when getting hit. If she’s being comboed, her red health turns straight back to yellow health assuming you have that hyper up - which essentially reduces all damage she’s taking by 2/3, except for cutscene hypers and one-shot finishers (piledriver and the like). Just needs to constantly burn meter to make sure if she’s being comboed she has her healing bubble up.

Yeah, she looks scary with her options, but she takes quite a lot of damage.

3 hits did slightly above 25%. I say she has like Chun health.

If Ammy’s loop to OTG followup to hyper can do roughly 75% to cap, then I think I’ll be fine :bgrin:

Love her Psycho Crusher by the way.

I don’t know if it just my imagination but it does seem like she gets quite a bit red life in those videos. I wonder if that is part of her mechanic with the healing field and all.

Of course everything changes at a “high level of play”, but until someone truly masters Phoenix, she will take a severe beating comparatively speaking. Like I previously stated, she looks like a pseudo Strider (more than Storm, even though she has flight and faster projectiles) replacement for Strider/Doom. No orboros obviously, but there are many similarities; and just like Strider, it required a lot of precision to make it work. It’s the epitome of high risk, high reward.

I’d just like to point out every time I see the title of this thread I think of Altered Beast

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