Well within the context of what im talking about, that question is stupid. Why you insist on harassing me about it, is nothing short of hilarious. Even if i wasted time explaining to you my comedic use of the word, sarcastic use of the word, use of the word simply out of frustration (rare), use of it to specifically define a particular type of white person, it wouldnt suffice. You would still find a way to somehow think youre using it against me, and call me out as a hypocrite, when in fact, i shit on all people of all ethnicities and colors on this forum. You see what you want because thats what you want to see. Also, sorry, white people are making the news a lot more lately for prejudice, bigoted, and racist behavior in this country more than anyone else. When niggas is acting up, i speak on it, and sometimes jokingly use racial slurs. Ugh, whatever, again, im not going to explain this to you, because you dont get it. Youre specifically on a mission to try to prove some hypocrisy in me, which im sure you will find at times, but unfortunately 99 percent of the time, it rarely negates any other point i am making.
Tomorrow i could stop calling people nigga, stop saying honky and cracka, stop making dog eating jokes about asians, being presumptuous about transgenders and white female feminist, and still make all my points just the same. I simply dont feel like it, because the lot of humanity generally disgust me as a species, and while i feel an attachment to my blackness as an individual, i speak objectively about most people, and most things fairly often. If you have a stick up your butt about the white aspects of my criticisms of society, than thats on you. I dont give a fuck how you feel, this is the internet, and youre a weirdo. I might subconsciously do it more now just because i know youre lurking. lol
My overall message has never been about hate for a particular gender, race, ethnicity, creed, etc… If you wanna stalk, at least stalk properly. Dont just nitpick, and post something stupid in hopes one of these other buffoons will cosign your idiocy.
You essentially keep asking me this because somehow cracka and honky make you uncomfortable, or maybe you want me to stop saying it, because it ruins the delicious, logical, and unstoppable freight train responses i make to idiotic replies, and you want people to fully absorb all of my greatness without being distracted by the word cracka, or honky, as if these racial slurs are even close to as offensive as the n word.
Do you truly think cracka and honky are even remotely equatable to the n word as a racial slur. Cracka and honky to me is equivalent to calling a black person you dont know, ghetto. Its offensive kinda, but you can dust that shit off. A racial slur developed by the person in the position of power is barely even a slur. Never in the history of my life so far, have i ever seen a white person get bent out of shape about the word cracka and honky until the past couple years, with white people trying to cop a plea because they feel uncomfortable about themselves because they live too much on buzzfeed and twitter, and not enough in the real world, were no one is trying to legit treat you like the villain because of the color of your skin, where the opposite cannot always be said for black people in america at all.
Go back to the kiddy pool, sir, the adults are talking.
Nignog? Holy shit I don’t think I have ever heard that before. It sounds like a Balrog alt costume. OMG even that sounds racist now.
White people’s racist words literally sound like they’re from the 1700’s (which they probably are). Next you’re gonna tell me pollywog or ninny or flabberdoodle are racist too.
Like I’m not a fan of any racist words getting thrown around, to be honest. But it’s hard to turn that off when you got famous songs using the words and movies in Hollywood making fun of every fucking race for $$$. You can’t be a Hollywood comedy without a Jewish joke at some point, these days.
lol at me stalking you when I just browse the forums and respond to things you say. Honestly you saying cracker and honkey doesn’t really bother me at all, I don;t really know who you are or anything so there’s nothing to be bothered about. I just was simply asking the question you asked Sov, I just replaced nigger with the words you like to use, honkey and cracker. I don’t see how it’s a stupid question. What makes you think you have the right to use racial epithets about white people while telling other people they have no right to use racial epithets about black people? It’s your question just with the race being target switched to the one you like to disparage.
Also you have no idea if your answer would satisfy me or not, you’re making an assumption about my response to you. Maybe it’s easier to assume about me then it is to actually answer the question? You say you can make the same points without the epithets, so why do it? I agree I don’t think me pointing this out negates the point you where trying to make, I’ve never said it does, I just wonder why add it when you agree that it adds nothing to your position, your arguments wouldn’t be lessened without them.
I do think you give a fuck how I feel or else you wouldn’t be calling me a weirdo for using the forums the way you’re supposed to use them, calling me a stalker for entering threads you make and responding to the things you say in your own threads in a really badly veiled attempt to discredit the things i say instead of just responding to me like a normal, rational person. What am I not allowed to enter threads and comment on the things you post just because they challenge the things you say? What I’m stalker because I think saying something to the equivalent of “Those stupid honkeys, how dare they say nigger” is a weird and rather stupid thing to say, and thus voice said opinion?
And yea I know a lot of white people are making the news for saying, doing, and behaving in extremely stupid ways, and yes call them out on it every time, I really have no problem with that. I don’t even have a problem with you calling them racial epithets, it really doesn’t bother me. People on SRK be all “Uhg white people” all the time so whatever. It’s just weird to me that you rally on endlessly about how racist white people are while being extremely disparaging about white people as a whole. Seems self defeatist to me.
Anyway to answer your question since it seems mine wont be, no I don’t think cracker or honkey are as offensive as nigger, but I also don’t think that being disparaging to anyone based on skin color is right whether they be white, black, brown, yellow, whatever. It’s all wrong, doesn’t really matter the level of wrong, judging people based on their skin color is wrong, period.
Perhaps people are getting uptight about the offhanded racism against white people because it’s starting to gain real traction. It’s starts on buzzfeed and tumblr and twitter (I have non of these just fyi) but before long it could very well move out of those spheres and into the real world where it could become a problem. Tumblr man hating is certainly becoming a real world issue and not just an internet issue so those people are trying to nip it in the bud before it becomes a real world issue, I dunno.
Anyway maybe you’re the one who needs to go back to the kiddy table, I asked my question in earnest, having your question turned around on you seems to have upset you something fierce, perhaps this is a conversation you don’t have the mental fortitude to actually weather. It was a white guy trying to understand your position and why it’s ok for you to say those things about whites, but not for whites about blacks, why is the double standard ok, and in turn you just got all pissy and shit and started calling me names and accused me of stalking you on a fucking message board. Liker seriously…stalking…on one message board…on one website on the entire fucking internet.
How the Hell did what Hogan did evolve into a discussion about everybody’s frustrations with black people?
The thing that annoys me most is closeted racist. Why be a fag about it? I have way more respect for an honest racist over one that only displays the hate when they feel comfortable.
Welcome to America. A famous white person can get caught with 5 black people hanging in his back yard and most condemnations on the internet will be lead astray because a few haters will say, “Well, black people do talk loud in movie theaters”. Now lets all argue about that.
Like i said before, you don’t hear Asians call each other chinks, you don’t hear spanish people call each other specs, etc… and the reason why is because the whole “i can say this word but you can’t” is fucking stupid. Logically, it is rather impossible to intelligently rebuke a person for saying a specific word when it is being spammed very proudly by others/yourself. It just makes the whole fight for “equality” senseless.
I disagree, i think that was way worse… I recall him calling Pacquiao “Poochieyaw”, how the fuck is that not derogatory? A white man can make a video w/o using the N word and just plain stereo types such as fried chicken, spamming slang words, etc. and that would still be considered immensely racist. If you think that the lack of derogatory terms weakens the racism then there is something seriously wrong with you. I’m not saying i disagree about Hogan being fired, he should be fired however the whole racial thing should go for everybody.
Even if of you think that Hogan was worse that does not bar the fact that Floyd’s video was a straight up racist video that he never got punished for. The point is, the whole race card that black people at this day pull is sternly hypocritical. I’m half black myself, but i’m not just going to roll in this shit that has been going on society for such a long time, i’m going to be fully real here and say that i am so sick of this “playing the victim” shit.
I didnt say you were stalking me, but harassing me. Semantics, i know, but still. I view it like that, because your question AGAIN is not a response to anything. Its a random statement out of left field. I wasnt the one making a post feeling entitled and confused as to why a white man cant say nigga, and you guys can. So asking me why i feel the NEED to say cracka and honky doesnt even make sense within that context, AND, its the same thing youve said the past like 3 encounters ive had with you. Its this obsession with trying to pinpoint my hypocrisy, and call me out for it, as if nobody saw the last 3 times we got into this argument.
People have the right to do whatever the fuck they want, and if they get caught, they have to deal with it too. Again, that had nothing to do with what soviet was talking about. He was talking about the right to say nigga how some of us sometimes say nigga to each other, simply because we say it and its riddled in our pop culture. Thats not the same as spouting racial slurs and then having to come clean about them. I’m just using the words cracka and honky in varying context, not asking for permission to be able to call you crackas and honkys without you feeling offended by it.
Yeah, i do have an idea, because we’ve gotten into this tussle for like 3 times now in recent memory, and ive told you before, that those words are used sarcastically most of the time, and or to describe a specific type of shitty, racist white person. I also say i use it jokingly sometimes, and that overall ive shitted on all races, creeds, genders, and ethnicities on this forum, that if anything someone would paint me more of a hater of all, a sexist even, but im pretty all over the place with my shit talking. With that said, thats never satisfied you then, so why would it now, because here you are again asking the same fucking question. (kanye shrug)
No, i find it weird when we have this discussion, i give you answers every time, and then you go into another thread, and once again respond to me on some out of context, off topic shit, and im like, wtf are you talking about. Its like youre thinking to yourself, “Oh, hes talking about race. Lemme remind him he says cracka and honky alot, regardless of the context, and how misplaces the statement is in the thread at the moment”.
Again, for you, and anyone else who brings this up, ive mapped out the generalities of my usage of the word, and the lack of power it even really has to begin with. I’m sure 3 weeks from now, someone is going to say, well you say cracka and honky, and i know theyve seen what ive typed besides those two words. If they havent because they missed it, cool. If they havent seen my replies to that because they scan over post to long for them to read because of their adhd, cool, but dont keep asking me the same question, when ive already answered it.
Well, i dont feel i am extremely disparaging about white people as a whole that often. If i am, my bad. I feel i spend equal as much time defending batman vs superman, calling razor out, saying how stupid women be acting, and shitting on wonder woman, than i am making post about how white people are the devil. On the same hand, im not praising everything black people do any more than i am an asian, white, or whoever person.
I dont know, im not white. So im not self conscious about the reality of the generally lesser/never talked about history of white people in america, and their interactions with blacks, women,other white europeans, asians, latinos, gays, etc… So maybe im bringing it up too much, but in reality, its the other people writing about it, and making documentaries about it, that are white, and im just discussing it. I didnt make donald trump say illegal mexican immigrants are rapist. I dont make the plethora of conservative republicans say homophobic, bigoted, and racist shit. I’m not the white cop beating up on black teens and harassing them, or shooting them with hundreds of bullets for misidentifying black men leaving a bachelor party. I’m not the white politicians making monkey jokes about our president of the united states, nor am i donald sterling, hulk hogan, bounty the dog hunter, and numerous amounts of other influential individuals getting exposed for saying some hella racist shit.
Im sure im guilty of some things for sure. It happens, and for the millionth time, i confess that. One things for sure though, i aint making up racism, institutionalized racism, white washed american history, global white washed history of black people, global racism that was influenced by white europeans, and the list goes on. I’m just talking about it. If some white people in this country didnt wanna be pieces of shit, who wanted to make right this countries wrongs, we wouldnt even be having this conversation.
I dont think its starting to gain real traction. I havent seen a white person randomly drugged through the street and killed for being white since this social media buzz about racism in this country, but i have seen a white boy recently walk into a church and murder a bunch of people because of the color of their skin. Those tumblr man haters are a minority. I’ve never encountered one once in my life, and im not likely too, because theyre a minority, and always will be. Most of them would find themselves quickly isolated and alone, believing that stupid shit on the internet they spout. Their points are usually easily refutable, and dumb. Just like when i see black people regarding everything as racist. Those people only gain traction on a site thats already just for stupid people anyways. They still go to work and act normal to their white friends, coworkers, and bosses.
The few that are tumblr feminist on and offline, they likely surround themselves in a box anyways, and i dont hang around filthy hipsters who spend more time on their phone at the pub, than drinking beer and debating shia leboufs greatness. lol. So in short, no, i dont believe there is some uprising of black racist coming, looking to take over, and shit all over the white man. Black people might be more emotional and open about whats going on in this country when it comes to racism, but we’re not seeking black supremacy. We’re still asking for the same shit we were in 1910, to just get a fair shake, and not get beat, killed, or denied opportunities just because of the color of our skin.
I have the mental fortitude for this discussion. I can have this discussion while holding a 45 pound weight over my head, busting out beer shits, and watching the new episode of dbz super. This is a conversation i have on here constantly, but no one reads, and or theyre too obsessed with what ever horrible point theyre making, to even see anything else. People here are constantly looking for a fix to get them through their shitty days, and earnest intellectual discourse on this site is generally frowned upon. Razor is still surprised to this day, of the 1-3 of us that actually read the long winded links he post, and like me, has a detailed opinion about them.
I have never once backed down from anyone on this site. It would be foolish to, as most people arent ready to discuss anything, but somehow find their way to reply to one of 50 different points, make that their marker, and forget everything else. That or tell me to stfu and lets get back to joshin around, which is fine by me.
So yeah, you can be offended by my usage of cracka and honky, regardless of context. They are also not very powerful words globally at all, even so much so, that its common for white comedians to point out how completely unoffended they are by those two words. Theyre still technically racial slurs, so it is what it is. I’m not gonna explain myself everytime i use the word, but from now on, on more serious topics, i’ll be sure to keep it out of my text, and still continue to make the points i always have, and need to.
Dont misplace my silence for backing down. Its sunday, i was trying to relax with my lady before the work week starts tomorrow, and not be sitting on the sofa all ancy because i want to reply to your post. I just x’d out the internet, made a drink, and was relaxing.
I’m seeing way too much of this justification “Oh well if black people don’t like people using the word nigga, they should stop using it themselves”.
This is wrong on so many levels, but lets just pick the most obvious ones:
Not all black people are the same (surprising right?)
Not all black people agree with each other.
And here’s the best one that every body needs to pay attention to:
Rappers are not the spokespeople of the black community. They just aren’t.
You simply can’t say that since rappers use the word, that means that all black people should just shut up about being upset about it. That is just ridiculous. The vast majority of us do not say that word around around people we don’t want using it; if we even say it at all. A portion of us also don’t really approve of the word being thrown around since many black people over the age of 50 vividly remember that word being thrown at them. My father and step father grew up in backwards-ass racist areas. They both heard that word before they were in kindergarten. I grew up in the same area and had to deal with it myself. Last week I got called a “stupid nigger” for walking across the street when some guy was speeding around a neighborhood in Hollywood. Anyways, that’s not really the point here.
Seriously, stop saying black people should be ok with anyone using that word just because a few famous people do. That makes no sense. That’s like saying white people should be ok with everyone assuming they’re all racists because a few of the famous ones are.
Are you slow? I’m just gonna keep asking people this until i get a yes. lol
OMG, does anyone else wanna handle this stupidity. Jesus christ. Not to mention, it has nothing to do with hulk. It was some off topic garbage brought up for no fucking reason. You wanna debate that shit, take it to the lounge where everyone can tell you to shut the fuck up, or create a thread on it, and look like a stupid asshole.
I said floyds video was racist, but you said it was way worse, and on the degrees of being a racist fuck head, no, i disagree that it was worse. I think to call a black person a nigga 4 times in a sentence, self proclaiming yourself as a racist, then saying “fucking niggas”, is really fucking bad. To add to that, you then have some weird awkward conversation with your son, once again for no reason discussing black people, and you say that you dont wanna be reincarnated as a black person, further adding to your racism, and thoughts of white supremacy. Which is so far still the tip of the iceberg it seems.
Yeah, what hulk said was super racist so far. What floyd said was racist bullshit, but again, because i dont think you can read english very well, he didnt call manny a chink, followed by saying, yeah im racist, fucking chinks. Then go on to have some weird convo with someone he knows, and how he would never wanna come back as an asian person. Oh, and he also didnt say, well if my daughter wanted to fuck a chink, thats fine, but at least be a chink with a bunch of money (because clearly we’re not worth his daughters time if we cannot be milked for cash).
You have to be out of this world crazy to think the two are remotely even close. Floyds rant was still racist as fuck and shitty, but dont go on saying it was way worse, because it wasnt at all. Im sure minister farrakhan has said way worse shit than that floyd mayweather rant, and hes a well respected man. I mean, if youre gonna battle racist, at least come a little harder before comparing someones racist jabs about eating dogs and making sushi to someone saying they hope they dont get reincarnated as black people, along with going on a racist tirade against a guy trying to actually front money for your daughters shitty career.
It has to do with the Hulk because racism was his crime.
Well i disagree, i think spamming stereotypes and harshly defaming countries, cultures, and ethnicity is allot worse than just spamming a derogatory word. Racist remarks that are highly articulated can cause more damage because of the fact that it is giving a view point towards the race… Even if you think that Hogan’s was worse you are stupid to think that Floyd’s video wasn’t super racist as well because of not using racial names. "Hogan said the N word, that’s super racist… floyd saying all asians are dog/cat eaters, re-pronouncing names to the sound of racial bashing, calling the country he is from “fucked up” is not super racist. GTFO