That is cool, I am just saying how it is ^_^. Also, I think when you use the LS-32-01 on the HRAP2 it get`s slightly higher than a Sanwa JFL.
Yeah that was roughly the same as me. I was going to get two sticks, the HRAP2 and a custom, but I ran into debt and ended up with less than I could afford so I just modded it. It was worth it imo, buying the HRAP2 I mean. I had more fun modding it that I probably would have with 2 sticks.
Demon Dash
Your the one I sold the HRAP2 with sanwabuttons from Japan? I can not keep track of all my orders…
Nahh, I bought my HRAP2 else where. I’m the one who ordered the LS-32 with ball and bat top, octagonal plate, button plugs from you and snap ins from japan.
i did this mod last week, therealneogeo sent me a LS-32-02(thats what the pcb said like in fubar’s pic), heres what i thought:
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the plastic pieces on the bottom of the stick can/should be unscrewed to properly mount the stick(screw in each corner). it takes 5 mins, not even. invest in some button plugs, better if they are white
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the only console sticks i ve played on has been the HRAP1 or MAS layout, so the distance/layout on the HRAP2 was wierd, now i like this distance/layout best, its comfortable. i feel like i can focus more on the game now, i recommend this mod.
Demon Dash
Ah, ok.
kofiend
Oh you got it, good.
How did everyone mount there LS-32? Recalibrating the controls? Or unscrewing the mounting plate? Personally I turned the mounting plate round and just screwed it in like in this mod. I was going to recalibrate the controls, but I wasn’t too sure on the ground wire so I just left it alone.
Why not turn the mounting plate like fubarduck did?
Did you even read my post?
Oops, I guess I doze off somewhere in there:P nvm then.
Ok, I’ve just got my snap-ins and before I go wiring anything, I just want to make sure on one thing. There’s two wires per button right? Does it matter which way round I wire it? You know, does it matter which way the micro-switch is when I put the button in?
afaik it doesnt matter. there’s no real way to differentiate either “prong”. either that or i’ve gotten lucky getting every one of the buttons wired right lol
I just replaced the buttons in my HRAP2 with Seimitsu screw ins, and it’s not really that much trouble to get the X button in. All you have to do is take the nut to some sandpaper and shave off a tiny amount (probably less than a millimeter). By far the hardest part of the entire process was just getting the “quick” disconnects off. A few of them were on so tight, they might as well have been soldered.
Also, to the people asking about how a Sanwa w/octagonal restictor plate compares to a Seimitsu stick, they feel a lot closer than you’d think from looking at pictures. You get three options with the Seimitsu’s restrictor plate: 2-way, 4-way, and “open.” The 4-way setting locks in the up, down, left, and right directions, not the corners like a stock Sanwa… think of it as a diamond or + restrictor as opposed to a square. In the open setting, you can still clearly feel all eight directions, it’s just that the corners are more pronounced than the other directions. With the Sanwa’s octagonal restrictor, all eight directions are uniform and everything locks in equally.
They’re really very similar and I don’t see much reason to greatly prefer one over the other. I think they’re both massive steps up from a square gate. If I had to choose one, I’d probably say I prefer the Seimitsu for fighters and Sanwa for shmups. Fireball motions seem a tiny bit smoother on the Seimitsu and when it comes to shmups, I’m more interested in moving in one specific direction at a time and the Sanwa’s tactile feedback helps in that regard.
Edit: Just thought I should remind people that the nuts for Sanwa screw ins are quite a bit larger than Seimitsu’s, so getting them to fit will obviously be much more difficult.
Thank you for this thread. I was planning on buying Seimitsu to save on costs, but if it’s better for fighters, then I feel even more secure on purchasing Seimitsu. I have a question about buttons, however.
Earlier, you compared the Sanwa OSBF-30 with the Seimitsu PS-14-GX. However, the Sanwa button is the lower grade version of the Sanwa OSBF-30RG while the Seimitsu PS-14-GX is the higher grade version of Seimitsu PS-14-G. I believe TheRealNeoGeo said the high-grade Sanwa and Seimitsu buttons use nearly the same switch… so could it be that both high-grades verify better, and both Sanwa and Seimitsu low-grade buttons have sensitivity?
Right, that’s quite possible. I didn’t realize this at the time of writing; I’ve actually never tried a Sanwa OSBF-30RG but it’s quite possible that they feel more similar to the PS-14-GX buttons while PS-14-G’s feel more similar to Sanwa OSBF-30’s. In the end, I ended up preferring the Sanwa OSBF-30’s, not only for sensitivity but because I don’t really like how the Seimitsu’s are a little concave.
Oh wow, I had no clue Seimitsu buttons were a little concave. I can’t tell from the pictures, but I guess fingers do not lie. It’s not a huge deal, but it is a bit of a turn-off. I may have to consider shelling a few more bucks for the Sanwa-30-RG then… I’d like my buttons as convex as possible, and I’m willing to give up some sensitivity for better confirm.
And just to make sure… the differences between the LS-32 and the LS-32-01/02:
- Flat vs. S-mounting plate
- LS-32-01/02 uses the wire harness/5-pin that Sanwa uses
- LS-32-01/02 has an updated PCB
Since the LS-32 has a flat plate, does that make it shorter than the LS-32-01/02, or at least shorter than the Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT? I’m thinking about buying a case with 2.5inch height that was specifically made for that Sanwa flat-plate… but I dunno if the LS-32 will fit.
Unless the plunger on the PS-14-GX is different than that of the PS-14-G, the Seimitsus aren’t concave, they’re flat. They feel different than the convex Sanwa buttons, but they don’t have an indent like a Happ Ultimate.
I think very few of us have experience with every type of Japanese button, but I do own the Seimitsu PS-14-Gs (regular grade) and Sanwa OBSF-30s. The PS-14-Gs have the same lower sensitivity that fubarduck described regarding the GXs. I have not used the GXs nor the Sanwa RGs, but have read impressions elsewhere that implied the same difference in feel is present between them as between the regular-duty versions. It seems like each brand has a signature feel to its buttons.
Personally I find each type to be better for different types of games. I like the Sanwa sensitivity better for fighters, where your timing has to be perfect, and I prefer the tactile feedback of the Seimitsus when mashing the fire button in shooters. I have two HRAPs and am trying to figure out the best button/stick combinations to specialize one to each genre.
You’ll want to know that Seimitsu makes other button types that have a profile more like the Sanwas. The PS-14-GNs, PS-14-Ks, PS-14-Ps look a lot like the OBSF-30s in profile and I believe they are truly convex like them. Again, though, I have not been able to try them myself. I am considering ordering some; if they combine a convex plunger with the feel of the other Seimitsus, they’d probably be the perfect shooter button for me. Perhaps someone who has been able to try all these different buttons could comment further.
With GX Seimitsu buttons. 
Same here, and I think this stick looks fantastic with the blue/black buttons. I also swapped out my Start/Select buttons because of a general hatred of the color yellow.
Whew… I was about to cut my arm off when I read that someone else couldn’t get the screw ins to fit because I just ordered them from TRNG’s site, www.akihabara.com, and it woulda sucked if I had to wait until his next order just to get one snap in button. Anyways, thanks for the info on how to get the screw in seimetsu buttons to fit on the HRAP2.