No, just no.
Use your brain ffs.
You don’t know half what you’re saying. That’s obvious. If you did you wouldn’t misinterpret things so easily because you’d know what the other person is trying to say. There’s an amount of common knowledge we all share here and you apparently don’t have it.
What Womble was saying is no shit things fluctuate. Nothing is absolute when it comes to perceived power of x character or y super. Everyone already knows this and doesn’t bother discussing it. It’s like using “but couldn’t this all be a dream?” as a retort. It’s amateur and makes you look like an ass.
Versatility counts for a lot in 3S. That’s why most of the more often picked supers are versatile in function. Whether it be having more bars for EX, being able to connect it off many things, fills quickly, etc. The less common supers require specific usage and have diminished versatility by comparison. denjin is fine but it’s only going to work if you know what the fuck you’re doing. That’s the point. shinkuu gives you a lot to play with and options are very important in 3S (any fighting game really). So most people are going to pick shinkuu (boomerang) over denjin (hyperbomb). It requires less specific training and knowledge and is just a safer choice.
That pretty much answers everything there is to honestly answer. Bitching is one thing, everyone complains sometimes but saying the game needs to be changed means you don’t really like the game very much.
Damn, i know i should have said that i don’t want any changes… oh wait, i did say that a couple of times. Are you familiar with the term “theory crafting”?
We’re calling you out on changes you’re suggesting, even if they’re theoretical, because you posted them on here. I don’t mind that personally, but a lot of your backings to support your arguments have been horrible or examples of shitty scrub play/mentality. You also read what you want to read, and even then alter it to make yourself look good, while completely blocking out whatever else that hurts your case.
Even if you say that you don’t want any changes in the finished product, your suggestions pretty much show a lot about how you feel about the character, even if you say that you love playing him. Many of us understand the limitations of our own characters, but as a result we discover means of being able to get around those limitations.
The suggestions you’ve given to us about Alex are bullshit because it basically equaled to “make Alex scrub friendly!” Make Spiral DDT connect low? Short short Super with Alex? Give SA2 longer range? Make Powerbomb faster? The worst part about all of this is that I know you’re not trying to troll us.
Seriously, we’ve all shut you down. You suck, and you’re an idiot. It is a chore to read your posts and not just because of what you’re typing about.
Your posts in a nutshell: “I WILL TYPE HUGE ARTICLES JUST TO HIDE THE FACT THAT I DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT”
I don’t even shittalk that much around here, which should say a lot about your idiocy. I know you’re either not going to read this, or mince it even further where you quote me as saying “Alex has a shit Powerbomb P.S.- I suck weinerz”
I’m just glad I got this out of the way.
Get better, dude.
Examples of scrub play or mentality? How does the argument “A lot of chars (pretty much only those that are already considered the strongest) can just jump out of Hyper Bomb.”? Seriously! How the fuck does that make me a scrub player? Are you for real? Does this mean when Kuroda does a Hyper Bomb it magically becomes impossible to jump out of it? Do you know how dumb that sounds? “You are a scrub for not being able to overcome a technical limitation of a videogame!”. Well, you are a fattie for not being able to jump over the Empire State Building. Same dumb shit. Please, if you are going to say the stuff i suggested is scrubby then at least have the decency to not be vague as shit.
Guess what, i discovered a way to get around the limitations of Hyper Bomb.
If i want to play serious i don’t use it, instead i use SA2.
I also discovered a way to get around the fact that DDT whiffs on chrouching opponents.
Only use it when he is stunned and nearly finished.
Pretty scrubby isn’t it?
So, making spiral DDT connect low is scrub friendly because…?
You say my arguments are horrible but your arguments only consist of “scrub” and “scrub friendly” you don’t even bother about explaining why you think it would be scrub friendly if his DDT would connect low, instead you use a word you have heard here everytime someone doesn’t know what else to say. In SF4 scrubs mash out srks and supers during blockstrings like retards, on SRK retards mash out “OMG U SCRUB” during discussions like they are pro players and experts on every subject.
I never said make it possible to “short short super” with Alex! Why the fuck would i say that, i don’t want another Shoto. That is like the one thing i would never even think about changing for Alex. Seriously… lol
Give SA2 longer range? So, where exactly is your problem with that? What makes you so angry about that?
Same thing about making Powerbomb faster. How are those things able to put so much sand into your vagina?
I feel very sad that the elite of the fighting game community feels like that about me. :sad:
Your reaction in a nutshell: “ZTOMG I DUNNO WHAT ELSE 2 SAY SCRUB SCRUB SCUBR SCUBR SCUB SCRUB SCUTRB!!!”
I don’t know how much you shittalk around here, i didn’t feel like stalking through your other posts, sorry.
Well, there is one post i would like to quote tho.
No problem, feel free to say whatever want.
Thanks, i’ll try my best to make you proud Dad!
d;>
You know, typing up huge walls of texts doesn’t make your points anymore valid (thank god).
My dick is bigger than both of your guys’
Why don’t we just take Alex out of the game and please everyone.
this
and how to balance the game?
turn off all displays in extra option
Alex needs to be nerfed he’s too powerful.
Wow Aku getting annoyed kind of blows my mind. Good job failfail you managed to do something I assumed was impossible.
This proves Q isn’t a robot since robots don’t show emotion/get annoyed.
What Aku said isn’t ridiculous. Your changes are ‘to make Alex better’. Better would make him more scrub friendly, there’s no arguing that. You’re just like a lot of the newer generation who feel everything needs to be an equal start. Everyone should have the same exact chance. Well that’s not how it is and that’s not how it has been either. Some characters have greater ultimate potential, some are easier to use; that’s diversity. If that isn’t the kind of diversity you like then 3S is not the game for you.
No one who’s opinion is worth a grain of salt is going to agree with all of what you’re saying. They’re brainless repetitions of things other people who haven’t played very long, don’t play anyone else except over ggpo, don’t like the game very much, etc. have said. That’s why no one cares and will shoot you down repeatedly.
This thread isn’t pointless but if it’s going to actually progress you need to present new/better ideas and explain based on your knowledge why you think that’s the case. People might then remark that you’re missing the mark and should think about it a bit more. Instead of then pissing on them and making snide remarks why don’t you consider their thoughts since they’re much wiser than you. Maybe you’re the big fish in the little pond back home but this is the internet.
Or is your ego that big that you simply can’t listen and say “Damn you might be right”.
We need more players like Tebbo and aku in the 3S community.
We need more Danders in this community
Free Tic-Tacs everyone wins.
Nah dude, just infinite vitality.
lol’ed at failfail’s attempt to start putting in frame data
Ok after playing alex for 5 minutes and looking at a few guides here are my suggestions lol. Im sure there might be some wtf? or unneccesary changes.
**Alex
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Normals
-Increase the range jumping fierce punch because jumping hk seems ass to me
-make his fp overhead faster alex mixup game game seems limited
-Increase sweep start up and recovery by a little bit
-iimprove the standing fierce startup ad recovery.
specials
-ddt has faster start up to make it more useful
-give powerbombombs a bit more damage
-chops have slightly faster start up and recovery
-ex elbow slash is safe on block? Just to add more 50/50 mindgames when alex is in the opponents face.
combos
ddt can be connect from fierce overhead (give it some wierd property where it allows the ddt to be connected after the fierce overhead lol)
supers
sa1 - builds up faster and has same ex stock amount. It doesnt solve the problem of it being three frames but it has a good psychological factor he builds it faster and alex needs the ex moves too.
sa2-make it have a vortex like effect (as suggested before) doesnt have suck you in as much as ken though
sa3- I have no clue how to make it better. increase bar slightly and make it 4 ex stocks?
Then again I dont know if these changes are actually helpful to alex or his matchups.I dont play him I can barely play 3rd strike period. Feel free to critique because my knowledge is limited and insight will help. These changes are more to do if the whole game got rebalanced.
I’ll admit I don’t main Alex and some people may have a difference in opinion, but I have plenty of experience in the Alex matchup so here are my thoughts.
- Both j.HP and j.HK are really good combo starters though, and there are other options in terms of air-to-air such as j.MP.
- It’s actually pretty hard to react to HP, though, and it either beats or trades with quite a few wake-ups like EX SBK or Akuma’s Tatsu.
- Alex’s sweep seems fine to me. Not a lot of people expect Alex to do lows, not to mention it’s also a pretty fast sweep, so it’s actually pretty good in terms of as a mixup.
- Like I said, HP is pretty fast, it feels almost as fast as Dudley’s f.HK. Plus, it’s safe on block so why need to speed up the recovery?
- …well, I won’t deny that DDT isn’t that great of a move, but in my honest opinion it’s not worthless. It has virtually the same startup as his UOH, so you can build up a mixup from there. It’s a gamble and arguably a gimmick, but if you really want to land DDT then there’s a foundation for you.
- More damage after Powerbomb feels kind of unnecessary. A suggestion I usually hear from Alex players is “give Alex less pushback after a Powerbomb”, which I don’t agree with either because Alex has a sick dash.
- Chops are bloody quick and are either used to punish a whiffed big move or finish a combo. It’s also quick enough for throw mixups because you can do something like cr.LK into Chop in case the opponent tries to anticipate a throw.
- EX Elbow Slash is virtually safe on block, though. <_>
hahaha
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I dunno, in my opinion it feels like there has to be a bit of a trade regarding Supers. Being able to freely use both EX moves and Supers at any time should come at an expense of less damage. I know that some exceptions have been made and discovered over the years, but this just feels like a standard to me.
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…I dunno what to say about the vortex effect. Doesn’t seem like a bad suggestion to be honest, but it does also seem to take away some strategy into using SA2. You know, how there are times where you should or shouldn’t use certain moves? Again, that’s just me talking though.
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…I don’t even want to touch the last one. lol
Why is it only retards play alex?
thx aku for the insight aku. I find balancing fighters interesting and your response seems to have slightly improve my understanding on alex. Do you or anyone have any critique concerning my ryu rebalance suggestions on the previous page?