I think a lot of people are actually forgetting what it was like to play cvs1, not to mention they hate cvs2 for mostly the same reason they should hate cvs1. Long matches and tiering.
While I have my issues with CVS2, I still play and try to learn how to get around the things that annoy me. I like CVS1 also, but no one plays it.
It’s much like some people hate the “Stand up and die” meta-game of A2 whereas, I hate "crouch-cancel’ infinites in A3. It’s a matter or preference. I liked rushing down with Nak, EX King, and EX Vice in CVS1. I realized they didn’t work the same and learned new people in CVS2. Yes, I hate fighting team yare (mostly A or K versions) but they’re a part of the game and I have to deal with it. And it makes me so happy when I do beat those teams.
I happen to like the BS from both games.
Then again, technically I’m not sure if I even count as competitively active now.
The Japanese PSX CvS Pro cover art was awesome:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/image/547929.html?box=6906
Why does Capcom of America always give us lame, lazy-ass abominations for our games?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/image/547929.html?box=51094
Way to recycle Alpha 3 and FF: Wild Ambition artwork, guys…
honestly im pretty tired of the japanese fighting game cover art theme of “bunch of guys making angry faces and posing arranged in a pyramid”
yea dude the american boxart is dope in comparison
That cover is fugly. The DC one was better.
I hated CvS1 Pro’s cover art. It made Terry look like he had down sydrome or something. I would rather have something like Ryu and Kyo screaming obsene things at each other whilst in a gay pose on the cover than some bullshit crap art like that.
CvS2 is superior then CvS in every way. It is still cool to look back but its an inferior game.
Capcom’s Japanese games also come with nicer manuals, from what I’ve noticed. Their booklets are thick, and full of information and full color pictures. The American ones are usually only a few pages long, with incomplete information and no color inside.
Wait…Terry was on the cover? I thought it just had Joe and Dan punching each other in the jaw simultaneously. Looks at picture…oh shit, those niggas are hella lazy! they just put alpha 3 Ryu’s (inferior to 2) portrait art onto the same background as that pic of Terry from Wild Ambition.
This will sound stupid, but I can’t remember how you get to fight Bison?
I’ve dug up the the DC version and am having a blast.
I’m always ending up a Geeses place though, I even went pair match mode with Kim and Ryu in SNK groove.
From what I remember fighting Balrog (Boxer) then Bison was pretty Turbo-rad.
^^^ Try a team of SNK characters. I’m not sure what the exact stipulations are, but I think if you beat more opponents leading up to the final match using SNK characters, you’ll get Balrog/Bison. Picking all SNK charactes will get this for sure. What may have happened in the example you gave is that you KOd more opponents with Ryu. Groove doesn’t make a difference.
Anyone got CVS Pro tiers?
IIRC, if you WIN the majority of your matches with a SNK character, you’ll fight Bison. Win with a Capcom character, Geese. Like, if my team is EX Vice/Blanka/Ryu, but I’ve been OCV’ing all computer opponents with EX Vice, I’ll end up fighting Bison. I think that’s how it went at least.
I said before, I’m glad to see people coming out of the shadows with love for CvS1. Everyone started hating on it hardcore right after CvS2 came out. I don’t like CvS2: there, I said it. I still like CvS1 though, and would gladly play if it was online or I could find an arcade that actually had it.
Also, I’ll throw this out for discussion. I’m doing this off the top of my head, so don’t expect accuracy. Help me jog my memory here.
EX > Normal
Vice
Yuri
Mai
Balrog
Benimaru
Kyo (?)
Kim (even if this is true, normal Kim was still buff, wasn’t he? Don’t remember…)
Ryo
Cammy
Raiden
Normal > EX
Ken
Guile
Chun-Li
Terry
King
Dhalsim
Blanka
Normal Kim was buff for the same reasons really, the only difference was EX Kim had SUPERKICK? and normal had the anti-antiair super. Kuusajin(EX) and Hienzan(Nor) were pretty much the same really outside of Kuusajin has more forward range. You could use both of them like Guile doing roll XX Kuusajin/Hienzan. There were no difference in normals either unless you actually used Southpaw stance(press and hold RH). They buffed that up in CvS2, fleshed it out quite a bit.
I can’t remember if EX Rugal was buffer than normal, because I didn’t really fuck with him till Pro, but I know that EX Yama shits on normal Yama. Easy motions ftw.
Didn’t EX Kyo not have rekkas? If that’s true(can’t check right now) then Normal’s better for the better BnB. I honestly don’t remember many Kyo players of any kind back then. n_n
EX Ken was a fucking joke.
Were there any Claw players back then?
Only good thing over regular kim was ex kim had the juggle with kuusajin or whwatever. I dont recall kick super being anything special since juggles werent the same in that game to say. Ex kim just had that good bb, few little kicks sweep, kuusajin yadda yadda. Other then that not much.
Regular kim had air super, flash kick is “better” anti air then kuusajin was. And although switch stance didnt have as many options as it does in cvs2 remember that moves didnt work the same and kim had a good sweep in that game, so you could link stuff after his overhead switch stance pretty easily.
As for kim in cvs pro I probably played the game once if that but iirc they made his sweep worse? Maybe you couldnt cancle it anymore? I think hangetzuzan or wahtever didnt wiff vs certain characters ducking anymore. But you couldnt cancle teh sweep so you couldnt realy “abuse” it. So it wasnt like a change that could be used? O rsomething random like that. And I think you could cancle one of his air moves in it???
long long time im fuzzy…
Also terry roll riseing tackle was waaaaaaay good in cvs1. I dont remember it being a gimmick at all. It was a legitmently stupid thing since riseing tackle lp version had good priorty and it pushed you pretty far away, so punshing it was akward as fuck. Deffintly abusable. I dont recall kim having a good roll at all in that game. Only characters with a good roll was terry, ehonda and bison that I remember. Other then that rolls were pretty ho-hum that I recall. Only thing bad about there rolls was the iori “trap” acctualy was a trap vs them. Since they couldnt acctauly roll through it. So the trap was acctualy legitmently stupid vs them. shrug.
yea ex kyo did not have rekkas. he had a fireball.
You cant say you hate CvS2 and like CvS, CvS is just a more methodical less balanced slower version of CvS2. It doesnt make sense.
i think i got 5th in cvs1 at this tournament… arturo got first and alex from miami got 2nd… if i remember correctly. floe, arturo, parker(xist), and i all ate at some waffle house-esque joint the morning before this tourney; good times, good times.
… i also remember jason wilson being the first person i saw playing when i arrived in miami… taking out most people with just r1 blanka(that turtling mf:). then the next day he goes on a 30-50 win streak on MK2 with jax(if you want to lose money… challenge jason wilson at MK2)… and arturo beasting on MVC1. this was the first time id actually seen high level MVC1… totally changed how i looked at the game.
… looking back… that was a great, fun tourney.
More on topic, I remember one of the main criticisms levelled on its initial reception CVS1 was the fact that cr.short, short–>super was a big part of nearly every characters game, and a dominant tactic. A bit like all the crouch fierce complaints CVS2 had, but more across the board in terms of characters. Also because of the slower pace of the game, in the beta testing and when the game first came out people were getting big streaks with old school fireball/dragon punch traps with shotos and Iori.
Seriously, sorry to ask again, but would anyone post the CVS1 pro tiers?
the few times i went to orlando when this game was popular i lost maybe one of every 10 matches… and that kid trent still managed to come off cocky(though he was a cool cat otherwise). my pseudo-beasting in cvs1 was trumped by feeling i was going to rape the city in mvc2 only to win one out of every 3 or 4 games vs eder(yeah he was a beast even back then). my ego got a nice ass stomping with eder beating my top-tier(at the time) teams with double wolvie and team %100
… though looking back… those teams are good counters to spiral and blackheart based teams shrug … either way… eder gets hella respect from me for being an OG player who has stood the test of time.