no problem sir.
No problem to you too sir. What do you mean by playing Cable like a decoy? As for there being a lot more to BH than expected… just wait til you see the tutorial vid that me and some other people are working on :wgrin:
I mean like just him being there on the team makes the opponet a little more cautious than usual. I can get away with a couple of the mistakes i make just because of cable. I use him mainly for his anti-air.
Can’t wait for that vid!
oh gotcha. I believe they hesitate b/c of the threat of counterxxAHVB. With BH on point, you should be building meter for that purpose if you have enough meter, all the while, trying to pressure and combo into superxxHSF.
yo, how’s everyone. I’ve been out of the game for a while now, but i just read about someone using BH/Cable/sentinel. Well that game is not so bad, but is not beginner’s level game, so if you are loosing with that team is not because you suck. It is because, it is a hard game to play. In a nutshell it is a counter type of game, but to be able to counter your opponent you need to know the game, WELL.
If you looking for a good way to learn blackheart and be competitive at the same time then play, BH/Cable/capcom. It’s an easy game, and blackheart is the star. However, you wont go too far with that team it is not built for mainstream mvc2. But, it is a good platform to get your BH lvl up, before you move to other things like:
1)Blackheart/sentinel/capcom
2)blackheart/storm/capcom (doesn’t look good on paper but it works)
3)Blackheart/cable/cyclops ( BH infinites, not my thing though)
4)Blackheart/cable/doom (old school)
there are more teams but, i just wanted to mention a few…
P.S. i read about the use of BH ground dash, and all i have to say is AHVB!! I
if you are not that good with blackheart, groun dashing is a sure way of
getting your self killed. Stick to nj AD and Sj AD, just be smart about it
and be patient, u’ll get there. But, it is better to switch or counter AHVB
if you have cable and make it a cable fight.
Will bh’s crouching wp/wk beat out anything magneto does?(besides his jump adf wk)
there’s only one real way to get better with BH and his ground dash and that’s to use it. It’s 100% safe from AHVBs if they are calling their assist and super jumping.
as for the c.jp/c.lk. don’t try to beat anyone out with the c.lk. If you’re going to try to beat mag at the start of a match with a ground attack, c.jp is your best bet. I believe it’ll beat out anything but his c.lk. you’ll even beat that out too if they didn’t glitch and can’t time the attack right at the beginning of the match. Personally, I like to start matches with j.jp + assist followed by his ad. If they jump and attack, j.jp will beat out their attack the majority of the time. If they do a standing attack, you’ll beat them out or trade hits if you’re quick enough. If they do a crouching attack, you’ll both miss and your assist will become a shield as you come down at a different angle than it from the ad. The 3rd possibility is the most risky, but what do you have to lose if you have no confidence in your defense at the start of a match?
haha thx that makes alot of sense. And correct I have almost zero confidence at the start of the match. It’s like rock, paper, sicissors.
J. jp sound’s promising though, have to give it a try.
I wouldn’t count on it. The ground dash is actually vulnerable at its opening and ending frames for BH’s full standing position (which means you can’t dash on reaction to AHVBs) and for extra frames in a crouching position. It’s good for tricks, but it’s not something you can build a strategy around.
Only ground dash if they super jump or when you call drones (or such) against someone that is NOT Cable. Ground dash against cable only works if he screws up an AHVB and winds up being a bit too high. The ground dash is actually kinda useful when used in conjunction with drones and FP demons (they’ll track you somewhat as you’re underground so it can set up crossup games.
Real talk tho…Fuck Marvel…Magnus makes this game ASS!!
@ the start of my matches i usually do c.lp, it beats most characters in the game but magneto. Even without the switch glitch, he is faster than Blackheart. When fighting magneto, at the start of the match just block down, 80% of the time they’ll start with a c.lk. But if you want to really make sure that they start with the c.lk, act like you going to do the switch glitch with BH. Then just pushblock when he does the c.lk, always works for me. It gives me space to start my fierce demon blockade, and annoy the hell out of those infinite happy bastards.
Jumping straight up and blocking is the best opening move vs. Magneto.
I can’t see how. Before you jump, you go into standing frame. Which means your not blocking low. c.lk Bait, right?
If you jump straight up, they cannot hit you low. Jumping forward or backward leaves you open for a frame, but jumping up does not. The tricky part is blocking immediately after.
Mag can stop jumping up with s.lp + assist, c.mk, into whatever from there so he still has the mind game factor in his favor. Mag owns everyone on intro except himself.
This is true, but it doesn’t change that jump up is BH’s best move. It is a 50/50 shot, and most Mags players don’t employ a strategy that makes their assist vulnerable unless they are certain it will connect.
Everyone but sentinel
well against mags, like i said before, there isn’t much BH can do against him at intro. in fact that’s were blackheart usually gets creamed, because of the intro. You are better of by blocking, learn how to push block well, and you’ll be able to keep mags at bay. I’ve seen justing wong beat magnetos with cable, just by constantly push blocking when ever he gets hit by mags. Remember push blocking is the key to a great BlackHeart.
I’m going to bump the combo thread in a few minutes with some new things that I’ve found. Check it out.
EDIT:
Does anyone have any new guard breaks or anything? Only one I’ve found were call assist, j. fp. It works good with Mag-a, Doom-b and Sent-y, but it’s hard to time anywhere but near the corner.
And also Mag/BH/Sent is AMAZING.
Yeah, he’s right! If your so “HOT” with BH, teach us so that we can benefit from it too. Don’t be stingy and just go around telling us how your BH is better than ours. And No, I don’t rely on his infinite much cuz its B.S and I dont play with Low Blows like that.
This thread is just to let you know if you should refer to the other BH thread that’s stickied 