How to Stop Worrying and Love the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth - The Ultimate Doctor Strange Thread

[LEFT]DevilJin, did you get that one PM from Eviltoaster? just wondering. lol. I’m watching the new Marvel Madness video and it’s making me salty seeing all the big scene names get to play before all of us QQ[/LEFT]

btw, frame data anyone? much appreciated if someone can post it up for all of us.

Nah…haven’t gotten anything from evil yet.

I’m fine with waiting. I’m literally writing down notes of stuff I wanna try out and the wait gives me more time to think about stuff to try out.

Somebody call?

Anyway, I think the big difference between Dorm and Strange is that Dorm has pillar projectiles. He’s great a controlling vertical space, meaning your goal is to predict your enemy’s horizontal location and put a pillar there. Strange looks like he’ll just overpower anything on the ground with his own projectiles. I don’t know how he’ll handle against airborne opponents, especially someone like Firebrand. He has anti airs, and Mystic Sword H will blow up Trish easy, but we’ll have to see.

I’ve been playing Phoenix on point in FoTW to get the feel for Strange in terms of teleport mixups. It’s pretty much the same gameplan with better projectiles and a better character.

Also, I should probably PM DevilJin

Then that…makes him not like Dormammu at all then?

Ultimate Dormammu has self left-rights with finger shot xx teleport which a lot of people pre-release haven’t been using too much, but instead FChamp has been abusing 1D2C like crazy it seems. the meteors are too good. it’s a valid comparison but Dormammu obviously edges out Strange in the keepaway/zoning department, imo since dark spells > Grace of Hoggoth in that aspect. Grace of Hoggoth should be used as intended: traps or mixups into combos, not zoning or whatever. almost pointless to use up your 2Y when you could’ve thrown several Mystic Swords in the time it took you to get that set up.

edit: new thread title yaaaayy

5 levels with sov might just be the most annoying thing in the game

i can’t wait even though somebody stole my combo thread

random thoughts:

goddamn the range on 5H/2H/623L is silly

I think I like 5H xx 623L as a string, if it hits, you can dash 2H -> launcher from pretty far (just under max distance it looks like)

cant break 700k solo yet , need ideaaasssssssss ;_; trying stuff w/ sjc flames -> relaunch atm

casuals tomorrow, let’s see what happens!

what exactly are you doing? combo wise?

you think you could try

impact palm>grace> fly >j.m>j.h>unfly>j.m/j.h>land

just curious

I tried something like 5M 5H -> Palm -> 2Y -> S -> slow dial j.MMH -> Palm -> land S -> sjc flames -> S -> air combo -> spell of vishanti

Tried your idea, roughly same damage (600-650k)

Maybe I’m missing something…

mystice sword loops after impact palm?

Strange frame data is here: http://static.capcom.com/umvc3/manuals/04A_Doctor_Strange.pdf

Is Strange’s cr.H really his only low attack? The bible says that cr.L and cr.M aren’t lows.

looks like it, even though a 9 frame ,c.h is nothing to balk at its erm odd

also from the guide , cancel any blocked normal into a FoF or mystic sword

Ok, a little higher

(Corner) 5M 5H Palm -> 2R -> dash 2H Palm xx Mystic Sword -> launch -> j.MMH Palm S -> Flames -> Launch -> j.MMH Palm S -> SoV = 691,800 (if you’re quick you can tack on M Daggers before SoV for an extra 30k)

Surging Chaos: Yeah, they’re both mid.

good god Strange’s normals ARE really unpunishable. 5M is 6f though, not bad for hit confirms. Mystic Swords L is 0 on block, meaning it’s safe to cancel normals into that. guide says larger characters only though. 5L apparently has a displaced hitbox and is 4f startup, so it’s another option as an anti-air. naked Flames of the Faltine is +3 on block as well… not bad.

I’ll get started on the frame data. thanks Surging Chaos for posting.

@Alzarath: have you tried looping Impact Palm xx Mystic Sword L in the corner?
@quicks: sorry QQ

I did try it earlier, I could only get 2 reps reliably. It does less than the one I posted though. I’ll try again later. Edit: bleh, so far they just fall out if I do 3 reps

Btw… Strange can fuzzy guard w/ j.H rising j.H+assist. Just so you know~

man dr. strange’s frames in the guide preview are like omfg ew…

frame data up.

Dr. Strange teaching scrubs to hit confirm properly and not press buttons like a moron.

Cr. H is our only low hitting move, LOL

i have an idea. after flying screen S, don’t land. stay in the air, then do Daggers of Denak xx SoV. maybe the daggers will allow a 2nd SoV while still airborn?
don’t forget the swag strange combo…launch sjc teleport, air palm xx teleport, launch sjc teleport, air palm xx teleport, etc. :rofl: no seriously.

Tried that, they tech after the daggers hit. AFAIK its not possible to get 2x SoV solo.

You can set it up w/ Hidden Missiles, and I’m sure there are others that work. What I got so far wasnt worth it dmg wise though. Hopefully I get something later today.