I wanted to post this match just to show how effective Leap Attack can be in this match-up
Vs C. Viper - http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/190589/vs-c-viper
Vs Elena - http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/190590/vs-elena
- Try to trade balls with cr.MP, it’s awesome.
- U2 balls on block/hit.
- Against shock, use cr.LP instead of cr.LK. For some reasons, it works better and trades way less.
- You can EX BB his ultra 1 after he’s in the air.
A video of mine playing against an ok Blanka:
-red fb is easy to d.d.mk
-ex lariat all neutral jump/back jump fb into bb juggle. Use s.hp for jf air fb
-os ex ms behind meaty hp clap setups if akuma does not have u2. ( ex ms - st.mp = 40% life bar for attempting to teleport )
-st.mp all day.
-akuma’s air buttons have piss poor active frames. Lk bb as aa becomes more viable in this mu.
-ending a round with butt rocket has a chance of making the opponent toss his stick out of the window.
-abuse cr.mp just outside akuma s.hp range. Stuffs everything. Trades will be greatly in your favour.
-punish all blocked dps with clap combos for >50% damage or kara ut reset after lp clap for the kill if you think the opponent has been stunned irl.
-max range jf.hp mixed with empty jump ( at the same distance ) to bait dps. Combo with st.mp if jf.hp hits. Cr.lp xx lk lariat whiffs at this range. Akuma can aa hugo at this distance with st.hk for 30/50 damage(lol)
-st.mp in neutral.
-dives are almost always unsafe on block vs hugo. U1/spd.
-mashing spd/bb vs cammy’s “pressure” is a viable option in this mu. The scales are tipped in hugo’s favour due to cammy’s nerfed damage output.
-Non-meaty ass-to-mouth on viper’s wakeup beats everything except block.
-react to any super jump from 3/4 screen with hk bb/u2 for pain. Use ex bb for the guaranteed damage.
-bb all burnkick mixups on your wakeup. Buffer dp motion and press k on reaction to jump/bk/elbow bullshit. Alternatively, you may choose to stand-block burn kicks to punish with u1.
-ex lariat/ex meatsquasher “mixup” is not viable due to 7f armour breaker.
-abuse st.mp at mid-range. Its a winning distance for hugo. Viper has rubbish buttons. “yomi” hp tk will often trade in your favour.
tl:dr hugo is a hard-counter to viper.
-blocked non-ex daggers are always unsafe.
-st.mp all mk/hk teleports on reaction. Swap with s.hp depending on spacing. Decapre will bait bb with teleport feints.
-ex bb out of non-kd u1 mixups.
-use lights more often when decapre has u2. Any decent decapre will whiff punish all mediums. Use st.mp liberally if decapre walks forward to slap her face for 120 damage with little risk to yourself.
-decapre’s cr.mk xx dagger counterpokes st.mp/cr.mp pretty well. Hugo has no solid answer to this due to walk speed disparity. Use cr.lk xx lk lariat to discourage decapre from abusing this.
If he misses his combo, you can punish EX walldive before it hits the all after you finish blocking.
- IMO Hugo loses the footsie battle
- Try not to jump in, Vega can AA Hugo very reliably ( especially at the ranges Hugo wants to jump to close the gap )
- Haven’t tried this, but meaty clap -> MS will probably catch Vega’s backflip on wakeup
- You can punish a close wakeup EX Psycho Crusher (after blocking and him crossing you up) with Ultra 2 (I haven’t tested with backbreaker)
Poking game
When trying to poke Honda, watch out for his s.HK, s.MP, s.HP and cr.LP.
Honda’s s.HK when used from far is able to low profile under your s.MP. To counter this, use cr.MP, cr.MK, s.HP or any other of your light normals.
Punishing headbutts on block
HP Headbutt is punishable by Super
Far EX Headbutt is punishable by any light normal, cr.MP and Kara EX UT. Cancelling into L.Lariat as a punish only works from cr.LK.
Close EX Headbutt is punishable by light normals, cr.MP, Ultra 1, all spds and ultra throws if stand blocked.
Close EX Headbutt is punishable by light normals, cr.MP, Ultra 1, LP, MP, EX spd and EX Ultra throw if crouch blocked.
When you’re on knockdown
You’re fucked. Honda’s new EX Oicho buff allows him to just fuck you over on wakeup. He’s** throw invincible for 5 full frames**, meaning that ex spd, super or ultra 1 won’t save you.
If you think he’s going to oicho, then just backdash or jump, there’s not a lot you can do.
Random notes
Telegraphed s.HKs can beat headbutts clean or make the headbutts pass under him.
Jabs and LK backbreaker can beat headbutts from mid/fullscreen on reaction.
The jumping splash always wins from headbutts from fullscreen to midscreen but loses to EX buttslam.
All buttslams are punishable on block by your 2fr spds.
nice
bump
how can we get this stickied or made an announcement?
Played a fairly safe Bison yesterday that liked to scissor kick at a safe distance. Afterwards I was wondering would a LK lariat trade with Scissors Kick and leave Hugo better off?
How to counter Izuna drops when he’s right on top of you?
Elbow is a nice answer to her Overhead kick.
Great tips. Thanks a lot.
Played my first Elena today. Had no clue what I could punish, when I could punish, or if I could punish anything. Weirdest moves ever with such an awkward speed. It’s like she’s really laggy or something. Wasn’t fun.
Ex bb with df d db d df d db input.
VS. Decapre
Punishers
L.M.H.EX Psycho Sting -> H.Clap
L.M.H.EX Psycho Sting FAFC Forward -> H.SPD/EXUT
Spiral Arrow -> Depends on placement but you can get a MS if it’s horribly placed
EX Spiral Arrow -> Depends on placement but you can get a H.SPD if it’s horribly placed
L.Rapid Dagger -> M.SPD
M.Rapid Dagger -> M.SPD/EXUT
H. Rapid Dagger -> H.SPD/EXUT
Scramble L/EX, RES-> L.MS/UT
Scramble M.H, Break -> L.MS/UT
Scramble EX, Break -> UT (L.MS only works Point Blank)
Scramble CS -> Depends on placement but you can get a MS if it’s horribly placed
Target Combo 1 s.MP S.HK-> UT
Target Combo 2 s.MP s.HP -> L.clap/UT if close enough.
Fox Tail (df.MK Overhead) -> H.SPD
Super -> H.clap
U1 (Psycho Stream) -> If you opponent isn’t very bright and does this next to you, you can EX UT or H.SPD him out of it.
U2 (DCM Ground) -> H.clap
U2 (DCM AA) -> U2/H.clap
General rambling:
DeCrap is really unsafe on a lot of her shenanigans and if you demonstrate that you have a good defence and know how to punish they’ll have no choice but to try to poke you. s.MK and s.HK are popular. cr.MK works really well against s.MK and s.LK xx clap works when counterhit fishing against s.HK.
Might as well post this here too.