I really think honda is one of his worst match ups…
How do you guys handle Viper?
Honda turns easily into hugo’s favor on any knockdown as he has no way to get out of his mix-ups due to Clap OS BB beating everything hugo does. I’d definitely say Blanka is worse than honda.
I have no idea about ibuki sometimes I feel it’s not bad then othertimes I feel it can be completely awful.
Vs Viper it’s a lot of Blocking and focusing towards her and trying not to be too predictable as to get TK. Viper despite having tons of wake-up options can actually get them stuffed by just mixing them up with claps, lows, butts, Knees, spds. Both Ultras work well vs her and it’s just preference. I’d say the strongest things viper has vs Hugo is TK to any armor and the fact she can pretty much punish Ex BB as an escape if she’s ready for it. This match-up I feel can end up being a lot of guessing on both sides when it comes to wake-up. Also theres a range about midscreen where Hugo dominated viper trying to poke or do anything because Cr.Mp beats a lot of her moves.
I hate Vega. Can’t get close to him to play footsies, can’t really escape izuna, can’t throw fast normals with the right reach, can’t throw slow normals with the right reach. Hell it’s hard to even focus him sometimes because I’ve definitely had someone react and just combo me from it.
I’m just sharing my impression. I’ve found Ibuki and Viper to be two of the toughest matchups so far. Vega is only tough because of infinite Izuna drop.
Surely there is an answer to the infinite…
What can hugo do against gouken? Holy shit is this match-up impossible to win?
Anyone with multi-angle fireballs from the ground is a major pain in the ass.
On top of that Gouken has several moves and a reversal that send Hugo flying back to the other side of the screen to have to re-start the maze again, assuming he manages to get in.
Hugo’s mixup game is completely crushed by EX tatsu, so get used to blocking on his wakeup. outside of that, just try and stay in and do your best.
it really is just a super shit match.
I really really really really want shorter dash frames so I can actually focus dash past guiles booms and not get punished when I’m in his face. he really needs something vs fireballs right now he has nothing good.
holy SH I T. I played a Juri offline at Bum’s house and that S H It was F’n impossible. She can hit me with the diagonal fireball and a straight fireball. We kept on laughing about how he kept on comboing the fireballs on big body hugo. we played like 20 matches. I won 3 rounds lol. I tried to Ex lariat but juri recovers too quick. I only caught him in one back breaker cause he didnt jump back much. I did catch him alot with meat squasher. Hugo cant do anything on Juri’s ex spin wheel wake up kick(idk what the name of that move is) I stopped trying to attack on wake up against her and most players cause they just use their DP like wake up moves. I do try to try the hop kicks occasionally and its rare when people do not press a button so i can actually do a mix up. thankfully I had Guile as a secondary I got my wins lol
With evo coming up I still haven’t decided what Ultra to use on every character and was wondering what you guys used vs
Guy (been using W), Gouken, Bison, Guile, Honda, Viper (kind of feel like W is good here), Oni, Vega and a few others I just usually use 2 or 1 when I feel I can punish or catch something.
I swear to god I’m so fucking sick of fighting Ken.
He can do whatever he wants. it will work. Braindead buttom mashing, setups, don’t matter. As long as ken just keeps hitting buttons, he will beat whatever you try to do.
Want to AA him? fuck you, most all of his jumpins beat Backbreaker. unless you have meter he can jump at you for free.
Want to poke at him? fuck you, he can stepkick any of your moves on recovery and come in on you.
Want to hit buttons in his general vicinity? Fuck you, DP.
Seriously, he doesn;t even NEED fireballs. Ken’s basic buttons and moves destroy Hugo. the only way to win is to just never let Ken move.
St.hp> ken. If you think they’re going to dp bait it. Ken’s will dp ALWAYS. He doing step kick pressure? Ex SPd afterwards. Is he baiting your exp spd? Stop doing it. Is he dping after step kick? well that’s just a guess sometimes.
Everyone can whiff punish hugo it’s nothing different for ken.
yea, no.
in theory St. HP is great, but in practice it gets blown up like all Hugo’s other options.
For one, it has 0 armor on hugo’s legs. any low attack beats it clean, including something like low kick into HP DP.
Basically everything you said works IN THEORY, but only if you make the correct guess at any given time.
And even then, it FAR from shuts down Ken’s game. He can still jump in on your giant hitbox for free with tatsus or simply jumpin normals unless you got meter to burn, up close he outprioritizes the living crap out of you with his normals, and he has DPs for when he gets in a pinch.
Let me put it to you like this: I’ve gotten to around 2000 PP using only Hugo, ok?
AI Ken, on the hardest setting, is a harder match for me than 80% of my fights against actual human beings. THAT’S how bad the matchup is. seriously go try it in versus. run a few matches with hardest setting Ken using Hugo.
It’s because the computer has perfect execution and doesn’t get confused. Hugo NEEDS the Ken player to fuck up and give him chances, because the character utterly trashed Hugo. As long as the ken plays solid, he will easily win the majority of the time.
It has armor on his legs… It just has armor for certain frames. I’ve had it even trade with DPs in my favor. Plus Never ever ever do Back breaker without ex unless you have a hard ass read on that jump.
Getting 2k pp with hugo just means grinding it out (After being sent down to 800 I got up to 2k in just one night) . I’ve beaten the third ranked ken and points mean nothing. You know what though he liked to dp a lot and at first it caught me off guard but as soon as I realized he was going to do things like empty jump dp or jump in tatsu I adjusted to it. You really have to adjust if you want to win with hugo. Going in with one gameplan work because he doesn’t get that.
The best thing the opponent can do against is just play incredibly patient react and punish everything. Hugo struggles to get in and if he’s whiffing buttons he’s going to eat a punish every time.
Gotta play dem footsies boy
So Hugos super has no reversal invincibility I guess? I lost to a meaty sweep which seems really silly
I’ve never once seen it stop a low attack, so I find that surprising. I’m aware the armor runs out at a certain time(like all of hugo’s armored moves) but I can’t remember a single time I’ve armored through a low, even when the timing seemed right. I can armor high attacks pretty much at will, so I figured I had the timing down.
And yes, I know how to win with Hugo. I’m not asking for tips, nor am I saying I can never, ever beat any ken. I’m just saying the matchup is amazingly stupid if the Ken has good reactions or is familiar with Hugo.
Not quite as bad as Sagat or Gouken(though that’s just because of the fireball maze), but you really gotta out-think the Ken player to win.
Hugo has no invincibility on anything. best he gets is crappy armor on some of his moves that runs out before the move hits.
His super is laughably easy to stop. he can be poked out of it with pretty much anything.
you will VERY rarely see anyone try to use the super as anything other than part of a combo for this reason. done raw it’s garbage
It was literally the very first time i tried to catch someone with Hugos super. I will never try that again.
Unless you’re just trying to style, there’s no reason to have a full meter anyways.
EX moves are drastically more useful than his super
Up close frames 1-3 are inv and for away it’s like 4-11 or something like that. I have reacted to a cr.mk before with super but that’s just super hard to do. You have to be precise with your spacing with it.