How to padhack an 08/09 Madcatz 4716 Common Ground Xbox 360 Pad

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This question may seem dumb, but what’s the best way to get the plastic joysticks off the pcb? It looks like I can just snip off the ends if I can reach under there, but if there’s an easier way I’d love to hear it.

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tawler- They pull off with some force

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Thx for answering.

I’d like to hack triggers and also the analog stick, but I don’t know where I can solder resistors … high, wiper, gnd … ??

can you tell me please where soldering ? some pics :

For triggers :

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8921/triggermc4716.jpg

For stick : (10k resistors too ? )

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1061/analogmc4716.jpg

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What I did:

trying a dual mod using Madcatz 4716 (2007) and PSX pad
10K resistor between +5v and Wiper for each X360 trigger.

It works fine on Xbox 360,
on PS2 : problem with R2/L2 (RT/LT), look at this :

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/677/sdsazze44.jpg

and no changes when I push or release R2/L2.

please help me :slight_smile:

thanks in advance !

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So i modded a new stick with the madcatz 4716 pad. All the buttons work, but could there be a specific reason why i am experiencing input lag? I got my ground from the A button and daisy chained through all the switches…

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Great tutorial

I was wondering if anyone had a preference for the common ground?

Also, does anyone know of a brick and mortar retail store that carries inverter chips?

Thanks!

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the resistors on the 360 pcb affect the psx pcb. you need something so that the flow from the resistors on the 360 pcb only move one way.

add a diode between the resistor and wiper like this http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/akuma001/PICT0976.jpg

i know it’s not the same 360 pcb but the same rules apply to the 07’ 4716.

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Well, i got all my buttons on here good, but can anybody help me with connecting my happ p360 joystick? Even when i connect the extra 5v, it always eventually dies out on me after a minute :frowning:

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Could someone please tell me which CMOS Inverter I need to get?
Using Peats: Page for High Speed CMOS - 74 HC Series.

Thanks. :slight_smile:

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The 74HC14 should work

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I’m not quite sure which is which.

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Is there some hidden thing to getting the guide button to work?

I’ve done two mods with these controllers and even after careful soldering on both, the guide buttons refuse to work.

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I wired my guide Button to the R3 (Right stick button) on my PS3 HRAP3.
It would not work correctly when wired to my IMP and HOME buttons, disabling the HRAP3 PCB.

Do you have another relatively unused button on your stick you can use as Guide?

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Well i’ve ordered 4 pads from nareg and i’ll be trying this soon.

fingers crossed i can get my hrap3 to work properly with the triggers too…

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trying to solder this pad but the points are TOO SMALL !!!
any suggestions?

could i black tape over the ground bit then older signal on

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Use flux :D. If you’re using the correct solder points, they can be small. And I seem to find that solder doesn’t stick well to them. Put some flux on and then solder your wire to it, and you’ll have a good solid connection. If your solder/wire is too big, get some smaller solder/wire.

The guide buttons work if you have a good solid connection. Are you sure you’re soldering to the correct contact (signal and not ground)

If you use hex inverters, the HRAP3 should work perfectly with the triggers. I’ve done a couple HRAP3 dual mods with these pads :smiley:

If you decide to go the resistor/transistor route, you’ll need some diodes.

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thanks upas, my problem is that i dont want the signal connection to solder on to the ground part, which is why i was asking if i should put black tape on ground parts so it doesnt solder on them

flux increases solder strength ?

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You could try using a smaller soldering iron tip. Also, use smaller gauge wire (22awg or smaller, I use 24). It’s helpful to use an alligator clip or some other device to hold the wire in place.

I would definitely recommend against using tape to mask away the other pad. You’ll end up getting burnt sticky pieces of grime on the pcb and pads, which isn’t good for solder.

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Mancer pretty much said it. If you’re really having problems, the only solution is smaller wire and solder. Personally, I use 26 AWG wire and the smallest solder radio shack had (and their 15w cheapo soldering iron).

Flux does increase solder strength. Basically, it allows it to stay heated for a longer time, so it doesn’t oxidize as fast, making the connection better.

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quick question, i have the 2007 #4716 pad, and i’m wondering if its common ground. the pcb is labeled 4716-1ver.G

here’s the pcb from slagcoin, but it doesnt say anything about common ground :frowning:

EDIT: nvm, it is common ground