@Resonate
Ah screw it. All you ever do is start stupid arguments in here anyway. They were small mistakes (use of Caucasian is still debatable as a mistake, since it’s used that way in the lingua franca) that you seem to enjoy blowing out of proportion just to start something. But whatever, welcome to my ignore list.
Havent had a SRK laugh out loud in a while.
resonate is one of them dumbfucks that argue just for the sake of arguing
90% of SNK’s fanbase is located in Latin America.
i think that the chinese are way more than us
indeed
Lol!, somebody’s read that other thread I made :china:
Really?! whoa, you really do learn something new every day 
I find Capcom’s portrayal of Q offensive. We wouldn’t be caught dead wearing a cheap looking tie.
I don’t really see it as racist at all. It doesn’t even feel like it’s meant to be racist. I really hope to see more nationalities and fighting styles shown in future games. Was happy we got a Korean fighter (Juri) in the game this time.
I was thinking about this actually this morning. There isn’t a Canadian Street Fighter character and it would be cool if there was one. But then I thought it would be based off of some stupid sterotype like maybe he would be a Mountie with a big Mountie hat on his head or something. Then in his winning quote he would say “Eh”
That would actually be kind of funny though.
After a few years of reflection, I think the Street Fighter stereotypes are 99% harmless.
To address a few of the more specifically troublesome cases:
Balrog: Yes, he’s black, yes, he’s American, and yes, he’s a vicious thug who’s obsessed with money (and not even good at managing it; he goes broke in practically every ending he’s ever had), but there are two main factors to consider here:
(a) considering his original character concept, he is most likely intended less as a lampooning of black people and much more as a lampooning of Mike Tyson, who shares many good and less-good traits with Balrog (although Tyson probably uses bigger words), and
(b) most importantly, he is not played off in-game as reflective of Americans, black Americans, or even black American boxers as a whole. His visual ethnicity is much less cartoonish than, say, Dee Jay, and his vicious temperament is never presented in a way that suggests it’s a product of his race or even his background (then again, we don’t really know anything official about his origin other than that he was barred from boxing and subsequently joined Shadaloo).
He’s a jerk, but he’s a character completely unto himself, just like any other character on the select screen. And let’s face it, many of us of any conceivable ethnic/cultural profile like playing as a thug who punched out an elephant from time to time. :bgrin:
(does that make us racist against Indians?)
Dee Jay: Speaking as a self-effacing white liberal (read: an asshole), I find Dee Jay more problematic than Balrog as a stereotype both of black people and Jamaican people.
However violent and evil Balrog may be, he’s at least presented as calculating, he may screw up his plans to GET PAID, but at least he’s willing to MAKE plans. There’s definitely light bulbs turning on in that blocky, punch-rattled head of his. Dee Jay, on the other hand, not only seems to have no ambition beyond singing and dancing, but he comes off (probably unintentionally) as a biuffoon who brings up singing, dancing, and partying at the most inappropriate possible intervals. He doesn’t listen to a word anyone says (though it’s hard to fault him for tuning out Rufus), and he seems blissfully unaware of any sort of danger posed to him in the process of fighting crazy flying drug lords, cage-fighting matador-ninjas with long pretty hair, and Chinese Interpol agents with legs like a horse. He IS the Happy Negro, full stop. That stupid grin doesn’t really help him.
But even then, he’s mostly harmless, in that he’s not really much worse than many Western stereotypes of Jamaicans (then again the most progressive video-game Jamaican I can think of would be Little Jacob from GTA4, and he’s presented as intelligent but criminal and lovably unintelligible to the average white American/Serbian immigrant), and he’s not really expected to make terribly deep sociological meta-commentary while he’s slinging fireballs at T. Hawk.
Bottom line (tl;dr), I think Capcom’s stereotyping is harmless mostly because it rarely goes beyond superficial caricature. It’s pretty apparent when you consider the characters within the overall cartoony atmosphere of Street Fighter that Capcom’s not really trying to present the SF cast not so much as a bunch of colorful buffoons but as a bunch of colorful caricatures. They’re not looking to bring anybody down, they’re just trying to create an immediate visual contrast so that somebody who’s completely unfamiliar with the game can look at the character and be like “okay, that guy/girl is totally Japanese/American/whatever”. (Although you could hardly fault somebody for mistaking Dhalsim for an alien, especially in his alternate outfits with the funky skin colors.)
Heck, take Ryu; he’s supposed to be one of the most “serious” of all the Street Fighter characters, he’s as Japanese as the people who created him, and yet he’s just as much of an ethnic/cultural caricature as Balrog – huge eyebrows, stony expression, his intense karateka stoicism played off against his naiivete towards urban life (he doesn’t wear shoes, he hitchhikes everywhere, reacts only with an earnest “Nice to meet you! Wanna fight?” to challenges from people as absurdly outlandish as Dhalsim, Blanka, and Rufus). Capcom doesn’t play favorites with ethnic profiles, and they treat everybody they create with a sense of humor, and at the end of the day that’s what really matters. It’s all in good fun.
Yeah I was also thinking that too! Personally, I don’t want a Canadian character. I don’t think capcom realizes that there is actually country above the U.S. I guess just like the rest of the world. Yep, leave us Timmies drinking, hockey loving, beer gurgling, igloo living Canucks be. Cause that’s the sort of character they will put in the game and his/her ultra would wield a hockey stick and a goalie net eh!
Piss of you fucking piece of shit, I AM A NATIVE INDIAN… Fucking moron. I wouldn’t talk about Native stuff if I wasn’t Native myself.
I didn’t say Incan’s was strictly mexican… I was getting at the Native people from the north you dumb ass cock sucker… The Mi’kmaq, The Lakota Sioux, The Cree, Navaho’s, Ojibwa, cherokee, Iroquois, Delaware, Choctaws, Chippewa … ANY OF THESE RING A FUCKING BELL YOU GOD DAMN MUTHER FUCKING IDIOT?
Infact here’s a fucking website for you you ignorant bastard…
http://www.native-languages.org/kids.htm
First off, NEED to see the Irish and Canadian fighters lead off the newcomers in SF5. Second, I really hope no one is complaining on Spain’s behalf, getting one of the slickest characters in SF ever. Third, Street Fighter will be stereotypical as long as Capcom decides to give characters races; just unavoidable. Thank you to whoever posted on how several of the world warriors are based on RL warriors. It’s unfortunate that arguments have to break out considering the varied races/personalities/backgrounds are what make the characters interesting in the first place. To anyone who wants to argue about this go ahead; we’ll see if Capcom takes your world view under advisement.
Well we’ve got mainly 2 Characters that are Uniquely CANADIAN. One of them is Cute and cuddly and the other is the baddest mofo hero around.
1). Sasquatch - from Darkstalkers / aka Vampire
2). Wolverine - Nuff Said!!! with just the name lolol
Is SF racist? Presumably.
Do I care? No.
It’s a fighting game, who cares? If it bothers you so much, stop playing.
You said real native Indians come from those places. Your words not mine, moron.
That’s the thing. Incans aren’t Mexican at all.
Please, learn to read and you might stop making yourself look like a huge fucking idiot. You might even learn to spell Navajo.
Oh and I’m half Cherokee myself so cry more please.
No you’re wrong, Chun - li is sexy thick.
Wait… isn’t Rog raising Gil?
a black man raising a child that is NOT HIS!?
Capcom got it fucked up
El Fuerte: Holy crap, this guy is nothing but racism! First, he’s a Mexican, so of course that means he has to work in the kitchen (and all his food has to be terrible). When you get to his gameplay, he does what any Mexican does best: run really fast and jump really high. Can you not see he was designed to jump fences all day long?
LMAO