How much PP does a "good" player have?

Of course, I should add, I meant that for the below 4000 PP crew, 4000 and above I usually dont meet the typical ranked moron (then again I usually dont meet 4000+ players to begin with :()

Some simple things realistically can be abused to achieve a moderate ranking. I’ve seen countless Honda players who do nothing but turtle and buttslam at 2500pp, or Blankas who turtle and up ball at any sign of movement.

haha that honda is fucking hilarious, i have never seen it play before, it is japanese, could be a booster, then again almost beat gamerbee… 99% likelyhood it is playing on a pad. I dont know why they dont focus those buttslams,I used to buttslam A LOT like easily as much as this creature, and i got focused so much. I honestly used to play basically identical to this and couldnt get wins for the life of me.

He has 4.5k pp. And yes he plays the same but he has mastered the art of online play. His Honda and Balrog is A rank. I’ve never seen him link headbutt to U1 yet. His DJ is also A rank and he can’t consistently link cr.lp, cr.mk. Can’t do any mgu combos or AA with normals. He changed his GT.

Is he boosting? Well I can tell you this…I’ve seen him get 30+ wins in a row multiple of times in endless.

Really? You don’t understand why the player is getting away with it?

I don´t want to be annoying, however using focus against the buttslam can lead sometimes into situations, where Honda will land behind you, after the slam has been absorbed, important is the right positioning, do it from the wrong position, you might even get hit by it or the guy will land behind you and you eat a nice combo. Using a non fireball and non DP char against Honda in online environment is painful.

This move is also safe, so …

lol unbeatable SSFP… i have him on my friends list, i played him a long ass time ago, a few months before i moved to europe. I remember him doing tons of buttslams I saw he changed his GT he sent me some message telling me he got his balrog to A Rank. I dont know why he is getting away with it, people always focus my buttslams and blow me up, online or offline.

also linking headbutt to u1? is that even possible? pretty sure its not. and also that guy unbeatable is not 4500 PP hes only 3000. its not the same guy as the japanese player, i dont see how that could be possible.

if JR rly got serious, he could be one of the top akumas in the world, or at least the best in america

unbeatable is laggy. also add to the list xWAx TheKraken. lives in the caribbean but plays on US servers. he has truly mastered lag. its nearly unplayable

That Honda is not a shit player.

Sorry.

No shit players at 4000PP or more.

Boo-ya

Balrog buffalo head linked into Violent Buffalo.

He has 4500pp and his not the Japanese player.

Please stop trolling

but anyway these guys are retards they are definitely the exception to the rule id class them in the same category as boosters or just straight up hackers/cheaters/modders etc. anyone who is half decent would rape them in anything more than a 1-off offline. majority of playerse over 4000 are playing offline, i honestly dont see the point in playing like these guys just to score some online points towards nothing. you look like a complete moron not even being able to do the simplest jab-confirm combo in the game.

thats funny someone brought up xWAxthekraken i always thought he was a very good Dee Jay lol it has been awhile since i have played in NA really looking forward to getting back there and facing these kids again now that ive leveled up in europe. lag is just not an issue over here you get a few bad laggers from england and thats about it if you stay inland you are pretty safe.

JR is too busy making people look silly in 3S.

Thing he actually hit Gamerbee with : Random hp headbuttx2 random ex headbutt x2, wakeup ex headbutt x2, 2 random buttsplashes, one ex and one nj hp hands combo.

He -hit- Gamerbee. He won a round. That’s no shit player.

Once again, he might not be excellent. He might not be exceptional, or great, or solid, or even more than “good”.

But Gamerbee is 2nd in the world.

This guy is not a shit player, anyone who says otherwise is blind or dumb.

Is that the real Gamerbee?

"Yo, these damn Blankas always doing wake up ultra…why can’t I bait them out online? " - F. Champ

“Why is Blanka so good online? Fucking scrub…” - PR Balrog

“Blanka…arrrgghhhh…meeeeh” - Poongko

And Honda is no different to Blanka in this regard, online they are both ‘top tier’ in a sense. I can play players who would beat me 7 out of 10 times while Im using my main and then I would pick Honda or Blanka as a joke and beat them with lagtics pretty much every match lol

So Honda makes a shit player capable of beating Gamerbee/PR Rog/F. Champ and Poongko?

A shit player?

Wow.

It’s a wonder he’s not on top of the nerf lists.

Come on man. Just admit it and let’s move on from this semantics shit

The caliber of a player doesnt go from shit -> gdlk instantly, there are levels inbetween you know. He is not a great player and would probably get destroyed offline if he attempted to pull the same shit as he did there, that said, he isnt terrible either, but definitely doesnt fall in the category of ‘oh wow hes such a great player’ either.

What’s interesting to my is the definition of a good or great player.

Like him or loathe him, if you take a cue from Dave Sirlin, you can’t help to widen the parameters for what makes a “great” player.

Is a great player one who wins exclusively by heavy hitting combos (and not dropping them)?

Is a great player one who knows matchups and picks accordingly in order to win?

Is a great player some one who plays the game with a flashy visual style, with flair and passion?

Or if we get down to the brass tacks of what this is all about - winning - is a great player one who can, regardless of style judgements, the items above and artificial rules, consistently win?

I go for the last option…

It’s the last option. But “abusing lag” is not an artificial rule. Online is not the real game.