How much does your arcade stick lag? Arcade stick input lag testing & results thread

Tech Talk
541

Have you checked the new PS360+ for the PS4? Why do the tests only have the old build on there? Also - does the PS360+ now work seamlessly on ps4?

542

This is in the wrong place! Sorry.

543

You ain’t “Flying” yet. The current firmware build for the PS360+ has a 8 min time out due to the lack of a bluetooth module used for controller authentication.
There is a work-around where you can manually reset the controller connection by holding Select and Start I believe? Aki shop working on a software solution.
I feel that isn’t the right approach to the problem.

544

so the ettoki stick is one of the best then?

545

Yes, the Paewang is one of the best PCBs out there for response time, along with the updated PS360+.

On another note, if anyone has a Guilty Gear Xrd Fighting Pad they’d be willing to let go, I’m interested in buying one for testing.

546

The paewang board is also one of the pcbs to malfunction and fail to function the most.

547

Agree with that - it’s why I stopped working with them well over a year ago.

548

Mine’s been working great for me. You mean malfunction when installed or later during use? I’ve been playing constantly on mine since it was installed and I haven’t had a single issue. I was always under the impression that the eTokki sticks lasted. Then again, when I got my paewang they told me that it was a recent iteration. Maybe the newer ones don’t have those problems (if it is infact newer).

You say the new PS360+ has got one of the best response times. I assume you mean for the PS3 given that you charted it not great for xbox 360. Though, again, you don’t even have the new ps360+ on the ps3 list so I’m lost.

I need to do some more research and figure out the best solution for Xbox One and PS4, and how to pair it with my paewang.

549

I agree with Gummo and Gahrling the paewang board really prone to failure and unreliability.
There QC for the production for the paewang really hit or miss, and more often a MISS.

@Cagan you are just one of the more luckier owners of a paewang board. How long you had your paewang board for?

Despite my pass issues with Teyah, one point I wanted to stress is that the board’s reliability should be a factor instead of just looking at raw input lag metrics.

550

The results of the PS4 tests are pretty depressing. 0.3 frames of lag on my new shiny TE2 isn’t terrible, but that definitely could make the difference between blocking or not blocking a mixup. I’m afraid there are no active modders in my community, either, and I’ve never soldered a thing in my life, so unless I want to spend $300 on mailing a stick to a modder that could potentially break in six months because a connection wasn’t solid enough, I think I’m stuck with my TE2.

551

Come on dude, 5ms has you upset? I get being bothered by the thought of 1+ frames of lag, but 5ms is more than a little nitpicky. If you really think 5ms is going to cause a missed cross up defense, you’re probably going to find a way to blame the hardware no matter what.

Anyways, if you’re really that bothered, the ps360 can be installed without soldering.

552

A few hours of practice going from CRT to a crap LCD monitor like the EVO one and I’m adjusted, I’m sure you could do the same with an even less input lag device like a fightstick.
The older EVO most of them used a even higher input lag Fightstick Pro and the pros didn’t notice or complain.

553

I have the Qanba Q4RAF Black and it’s amazing on PC. Anyone with success getting it to work on PS4?

554

It’s not for PS4, so you’ll need to padhack or PS360+(has 8 minute time out/reset)

555

To put 5ms in perspective, a single frame in a 60FPS game is approximately 17ms.

You’re never going to notice 5ms lag. Ever.

556

Theres nothing wrong with having a desire for fast responsive controls / wanting your input device to lag less as possible for the best gameplay experience.
It seems to irritate some people to no end as shown in this thread, to the point of trying to enforce their own beliefs that xms of lag does not affect gameplay! get used to it!! Look @ Daigo winning with TE! Stop blaming the hardware for your losses! (no one is)
Really, thats not the point. Some people are very sensitive to input lag and its noticable and bothersome.
So people dissect this information, test their hardware and sites like Teyah’s, Displaylag.com,comparing PS3 vs 360 input lag are born.

There’s also nothing ‘wrong’ with using a laggier input device or laggy monitor (not that I would want to). It really depends how much the person can tolerate input lag, and is comfortable with it.

557

Not sure how long I’ve had my Paewang for - maybe 8 months? I had heard about the unreliability of it and emailed them. They said that they made a new, more reliable iteration. I have a few friends that ordered paewangs after they saw mine and they play really hardcore. None of them have had any issues.

558

You guys still arguing in this retarded thread? Over 5 ms? 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559

For those who are interested : This is a snip from an email I got from eTokki on 7/18/14

Me - I’ve heard reports of it getting stuck and not being able to switch to another console, as well as sometimes a button will just stop working. Do you know if those issues have been fixed?

Them - Reports about Paewang PCB - The latest Paewang PCBs we’ve dealt with have not gotten stuck on a system or exhibited any of those issues to our knowledge. There used to be reports of those issues years ago, but they have discontinued as of late.

Not sure if that helps at all. Not here to argue with anyone, just trying to inform on the paewang.

560

of course they are going to Upsell their product, they be stupid not to.
Reports have discontinued as less people are using them.