How is your team vs. Morridoom? Is it the team or Chris G?

[DevilJin_01]

Hmm, interesting point. Would Tatsu blow up all low fireballs while ducking under high fireballs or would Akuma get hit? If so, got a new reason to play Akuma again.

Assists alone don’t really do a particularly awesome job of dealing with Morri fireballs or astral vision. It’s more so a combination of what a point can do with a specific assist.

Akuma’s projectile absorbing hit box on tatsu is only from the middle towards the ground. He can still get bopped in the head IIRC. You could probably put some shit together with another character that is projectile heavy. Melee character + Tatsu won’t get you a ton much more than what you already get by running forward and pressing on stuff.

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Tatsu won’t beat the 45 degree air fireballs. Tatsu assist loses to those and Magnetic Blasts depending on the spacing. Low fireballs are often used by players newer to Morrigan, but she has much more annoying patterns.

I think Chris G’s team is close to optimal, and her most optimized teams are Morrigan/Vergil/Doom, Morrigan/Doom/Strider, Morrigan/Dante/Strider, Magneto/Morrigan/Doom. It depends on the matchup, but I think those are the best Morrigan teams for her support wise, ie Magneto being a battery for her and setting up TACs into Doom, Vergil giving her practical ToDs off any kill. While Jam Session/Vajra/Hidden Missiles are her strongest assists and Doom providing TACs and command grab setups, Dante providing DT DHC off invincible reversal Shadow Servant or command grabs. Strider offers only Vajra, but he comes with the derp that is XF3 anchor but I don’t think Morrigan 2nd Vajra 3rd is optimal due to damage issues.

I think just Morrigan overall as a character is very annoying to deal with, Astral Vision giving her free wins vs anyone not Vergil, her fireball angles hard to interact/deal with, her complete safety, and the fact that it’s hard to rush her down when she has shell kick to land with. She’s a very strong character and made scarier with Missiles/Vajra.

As for characters that face off well vs the Morrigan/Doom combination, I like the following assisted(preferably with Vajra or another strong neutral assist):
Chris, Hawkeye, Dante, Vergil, Dorm 2nd(with momentum)

Maybe: Deadpool with Vajra(not sure about this), Viper with Vajra, assisted Yolo Captain America might give her problems, Nova?

On another note, Morrigan/Vajra is a different matchup, and is a much worse matchup for most characters vs Morrigan than Morri/Doom due to the losing of the ability to stall at super jump height vs her. Vajra is really stupid good for her when she activates astral vision. Missiles/Jam Session provide better rushdown, but Vajra makes astral vision broken.

[SiriusBlack]

Assists alone don’t really do a particularly awesome job of dealing with Morri fireballs or astral vision. It’s more so a combination of what a point can do with a specific assist.

Akuma’s projectile absorbing hit box on tatsu is only from the middle towards the ground. He can still get bopped in the head IIRC. You could probably put some shit together with another character that is projectile heavy. Melee character + Tatsu won’t get you a ton much more than what you already get by running forward and pressing on stuff.

I meant on point. Just try to get full screen and do L or M tatsu so you aren’t taking chip. Maybe with Jam Session to keep Morrigan and Missiles away. Actually you may just be able to normal jump over the low one, and tatsu to destroy the second. Wish I could do the spam to test it.

[D4Gamers]

I meant on point. Just try to get full screen and do L or M tatsu so you aren’t taking chip. Maybe with Jam Session to keep Morrigan and Missiles away. Actually you may just be able to normal jump over the low one, and tatsu to destroy the second. Wish I could do the spam to test it.

No I don’t think it could work, Morrigan’s fireballs have a lot of durability and with 2 or 4 of them on the screen Akuma won’t even be able to get into Tatsu’s active frames.

What Im really waiting and hoping to see is Filipino Champ vs. Chris G, These 2 players are without a doubt the best Marvel players we’ve got right now. I also think Champs Dormammu paired with his Magneto on point can counter chris G’s game.

[Lanzoma]

I feel my main team (Magneto-disruptor/Task-horizontal/Dante-jam) matches up fairly badly vs her if the Morrigan player knows what they are doing.

Magneto has no problem fighting her if she uses the grounded patterns of fireballs. H disruptor + assist support covers that well and clears missile calls. But vs normal jump/superjump patterns his options are more limited and in Astral Vision his ability to lame it out is flight dependent so if he gets hit by missiles he’ll be forced to fall. Fly xx Blasts stalls for a decent amount and so do superjump Magnetic blasts, but he’s limited as his air actions don’t keep him fully stationary(except hypergrav). He has problems rushing her down with how good Shell Kick and her Fireball coverage is. He can fight her off with Disruptors if she’s predictable, but if you utilize superjump blasts you give her free astral vision activations, and boxdash/normal jump blasts dont have a good angle to zone vs her. I don’t feel the Matchup is in Magneto’s favor when she’s properly assisted, he can definitely fight her but relies on her to make mistakes. 6-4 Morrigan at least.

You can air H disruptor and it clears both her fireball and hits her if she didn’t fly beforehand, or forces her to unfly. By using both Task assist + disruptor, you can close off the whole horizontal (ground + jump height) for Morrigan and prevent Doom from coming out, forcing her to slowly approach you or SJ. If she SJs, you can dash in and attempt a hyper grab in the gaps or cross under + assist protection, or even SJ and Disruptor in return (wouldn’t recommend it tho).

Shockwave is a great super to punish missed inputs / screwups as well, and does considerable damage. Your main concern should be to out-flood the screen before she activates AV, and even if she does, you can lock her down for a bit if the activation was not clean. If you can force Morrigan to approach you, it’s a favorable position to be in as Magneto. Plus, you got HAM session.

Most Mags try to play a rushdown game, but that’s what Morrigan wants so she can cross you while calling Doom safely. It might be awkward at first, but try playing a reactive game instead and see where that gets you.

[DevilJin_01]

No I don’t think it could work, Morrigan’s fireballs have a lot of durability and with 2 or 4 of them on the screen Akuma won’t even be able to get into Tatsu’s active frames.

What Im really waiting and hoping to see is Filipino Champ vs. Chris G, These 2 players are without a doubt the best Marvel players we’ve got right now. I also think Champs Dormammu paired with his Magneto on point can counter chris G’s game.

Yeah what makes Morrigan hard to fight is that she doesn’t have to commit to much. Chrisis in his latest tier list had Viper, Morrigan and Zero in god tier by themselves because everything they can do can always be cancelled into something else. Meaning there is no waiting for them to fuck up while they are transitioning into their shit. You just have to find some way to beat them to what they’re doing or find something that can actually regularly fight back what they’re doing.

Akuma can’t really cancel into anything but super during tatsu so he has to do a lot of committing to absorb the projectiles when tatsu isn’t exactly safe on block or whiff either.

[Rokmode]

I like thor/strange/doom against morridoom
9-1 matchup
All morrigan can do is hope she can overcome thor’s ridiculous normals and strange’s insane mobility

[ES_Curse]

I like thor/strange/doom against morridoom
9-1 matchup
All morrigan can do is hope she can overcome thor’s ridiculous normals and strange’s insane mobility

Can’t argue with the might of Mjonir.

[piskooooo]

Chris G could play any other team and still win tourneys, MorriDoom just makes him seem unbeatable because people don’t know how to deal with it yet.

[mega_buster]

Its part morri/doom since its really good but I feel its mostly chrisG he is very good an don’t leave a lot of holes in his gameplay

[p0tat0_5alad]

Spencer/Task/Skrull

It’s Chris G.

[GomuGomu]

Chris G could play any other team and still win tourneys, MorriDoom just makes him seem unbeatable because people don’t know how to deal with it yet.

Nope.

[piskooooo]

Nope.

You think you can beat him?

[GomuGomu]

You think you can beat him?

What does that have to do with anything? Yes. What now?

Aside from Chris G being great at the game, his team is extremely anti-random. He won’t win tourneys like he does now with any team because not a lot of teams can shut down random as hard as Morridoom does. In addition to the fact that there’s a lot of good players with godlike teams, he’d definitely struggle. Key steps to beating Moridoom (Not Chris G) is to pick better teams and stop being a nut. No one is doing the first so they continue to lose.

[d3v]

Morrigan-Y/Dante-A/Dr. Doom-B

So in other words, whoever gets to start Morridoom shenanigans first. That said, I believe that while Chris G’s team is better for chip, the one I use may be better at plain old keepaway/runaway thanks to Jam Session assist.

[piskooooo]

What does that have to do with anything? Yes. What now?

Aside from Chris G being great at the game, his team is extremely anti-random. He won’t win tourneys like he does now with any team because not a lot of teams can shut down random as hard as Morridoom does. In addition to the fact that there’s a lot of good players with godlike teams, he’d definitely struggle. Key steps to beating Moridoom (Not Chris G) is to pick better teams and stop being a nut. No one is doing the first so they continue to lose.

He used to win with Firebrand/Ryu/Hawkeye, Chris G is Jesus Christ incarnate.

[GomuGomu]

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Spoiler

As if Firebrand and Hawkeye are bad characters. Ryu is questionable.

[piskooooo]

He died on that day for our sins (playing shitty teams).

[KJunk]

If you pick a shitty team, you play it to the end. Ryu wouldn’t rage quit.

[ShogunFlow]

I’m a MorriDoom main since Vanilla.

You all should try Nova Dorm Ammy. I have a feeling that this team would match up very well. Another team to try against MorriDoom is Dante Iron Man Dorm. The best assists against Morrigan are Repulsor Blast and Jam Session.

BTW, Doom shits on Strider assist. If you see you opponent call Vajra you can sphere flame/photon array on reaction to kill him.