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a good strider can be the one of toughest matchups in marvel IMO. It really depends on how much you know about it. Generally, the less you know about it, the more often you get trapped.
we have rowtron…
I’d be cool to get top players like Jwong, Sanford, Duc, MikeZ and others to get together and decide on the positioning for all chacaters on the tiers. I’d be like marvel jury, the case is not closed till they all agree on a list.
There has been tier lists before for the entire cast but I think no one agrees with it becuase it’s just a list, it doesn’t give a reason why a character was placed where he/she was.
Yeah, this listing should go on at EVO. Get every top player and specific player (Ex. Strider players, Ironman players, rogue players, etc) and put them in a room for a couple of hours of heated debates. Leave a T.V. and a copy of marvel just incase anything has to be prooven. After everyone can somewhat agree on a list (I know some people will still leave unsure) we can close all these tier threads.
…While closing the tier threads would be nice… I think it would be a giant waste of time. Tiers are about as good as everything else in theory games IMO.
Tiers are nice to know when picking up a game. Knowing which characters are top tier really make it easy to pick up a few wins when starting out. Of course, once you learn the top tier characters, you aren’t good until you know the lower tiers as well. (That made sense, right?) Heck, maybe you’ll learn a lower tier character so well, that others will stop considering him low tier.) Sentinel is top/god tier because he has the least weaknesses running against him. Im sure by next year, it will be different cuz someone is gonna discover some insane 100% combo that is easy to pull off and is unblockable (yeah, I know its unlikely, but im making a point. So there :arazz:!) Also, CapCom is high-mid like Strider, correct?
You don’t need to know low tiers to be good… You need to know how to play, how to take advantage over your opponents. If you’re not looking for high level comp, and you get good at fighting the locals, but they don’t use Sentinel, you’re still good for your area, but not as an overall. Also, you don’t need to know the tiers to start out. When picking your first characters, you should pick who you feel comfortable with. Learn a little bit about each character and see who you’re comfortable with. Knowing tiers doesn’t mean shit if you can’t use them.
Highly unlikely as Sentinel has been top tier for about five years now… So has Magneto and Cable. I think Storm was the last to be included in that, even though she’s argued for the best character in the game spot. I still say Storm ain’t SHIT without Sentinel…
no, not really… Strider’s top tier…
God = top 4
Top = (no order): Strider, Ironman, Cyclops, Blackheart, Doom, Spiral
High Mid = Rogue, War Machine, Tron, Megaman, Psylocke, Capcom
Mid = almost everybody else
Low Mid = Hulk, Chun, Hayato, Spiderman, Venom, both Wolverines, Thanos
Low = Servbot, Dan, Zangief
Bottom = Roll
and for what you said before, Sentinel’s health is about 150%, not 200%… 200 would just be fucking broken as shit.
tiers are always going to be debated (other than top 4) because marvel is the kind of game where you can keep making shit up. I’ve made tons of new shit up with strider and I can only imagine what someone like killah kelly has done with IM.
Then next year comes around and we all have new shit again. Then those tactics\strats\combos change the listings again. Even the god tier has been changed compared to the early years of marvel I believe.
I guess the only way to put it to rest would be once the game has died off, which will probably be never.
How would you rank a character like strider who has unlimited potential? Do you rank him by what you see people do or do you rank him according to his max potential? max potential strider could possibly never be reached. He’s just too execution heavy to not fuck up something eventually or make a bad decision and die for it.
magnus may not be maxed out as a character either but he has 1 hit kill. His max potential becomes irrelevant to an extent because you’ve already won the game. Strider can’t kill you in 1 hit.
I’m with Viscant on tiers. Storm and Sent are good against pretty much anybody, but Mag and Cable aren’t universally “better” than non-Storm/Sent.
Quite frankly, Strider players don’t need to prove shit anymore. Nowadays with what some of us have accomplished, it’s up to anyone who believes otherwise to prove Strider players wrong.
Actually this thread was supposed to discuss how to play against Sent. Why is everyone talking about tiers?
because somebody misinterpretted what i said.
People have to understand that losing badly to Sentinel is a common thing because it happens like night and day. Figuring out how to beat him on your own is best. Other people’s stategies work for them because they ame up with them. Learn the game first and along all that playing, you’ll develope a way to beat Sentinel (Well, not beat, but NOT get destroyed) In terms of contributing to the thread, that’s all I’ve got to say.
Yeah, tiers would contribute to the theory factor, but people will end up having to have bigger balls to make a thread about them on this site ever again.
Damn right! 
imo there is two ways in going about killing a godly sent, a direct an a indirect way
direct = magneto using the unblockables in the corner against sent for the win
indirect = killing sentinels assist for the win hopefully
oh lord… super warrior’s premium now…
Something wrong with that?
yes… you thought Strider sucked and that stamina makes the majority of a character. Why does the Hulk suck even thogh his stamina is some of the highest?
anyways, back to sentinel, i keep getting smothered, and the people are really good at the f.hp + mag assist, rp and sometimes land xx HSF, and that does a lot of damage. the other side is that i can’t really make sentinel pay. i’ve tried ROM but it’s either you have to be super fast with the lks or mix it up (i’ve read the forums already)
one tactic that seems to work so far is c.lk + psy, c.lk, assist hits, c.lk, c.hk, snap out to assist char and make him pay but sentinel’s never on the ground long enough for me to do that…
not only that about 4 of the people have ungodly fly unfly lks thrown with capcom’s assist really locking me down in the corner…
I NEVER said “stamina is the majority of the character”, only that its definitely a drawback. Thats why few play akuma.
And hulk is pretty decent for those who use him right. Though i never pick him.