How come a lot of Kaillera players dont play in real tournaments?

GW should start displaying average ping instead of best ping. Its misleading. My ping is supposed to be some 300ms but it shows me 13 :confused: If you are not going to display average…you may as well ping only once instead of 4 times.

I enjoy playing online games, but the button timing kills me. Me being a person that is reliant on precise timing and reaction, I tend to stay away from fighting games online due to this reason.

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that a huge number of players on kaillera use macros (3p, 3k, ect) and they also play on keyboard or on the controller. You cant do that in most tournaments. At Evo they allow macros (even though its wrong) but at about 97% of any arcade tournament there are no macros allowed. Also you cant bring controllers or keyboards to arcade tournaments (Besides Evo or any consol tournament) A large portion (90%) of fighting game players frown on the use of macros. You can also look at the fact that many of these people are to bust or just not that fanatical about video games to travel for them.

The only person I think I played IRL in a tournament(Not a tourney match) was Gbursine. He’s a beast! LOL

But seriously… playing A3 in an actually tournament is fun as hell compare to kaillera… all the advantages online is taken away.

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-Beastcoast

I am surprised you brought that point up. I guess you’ve never played a mass macro abuser like me which is what i used to be during my early kaillera programming days with my keyboard. I could play fighters even with delay as big as 250 ms on kaillera if I am using them ^_^(Ive done it before and won too). Anyways, I don’t reckon anyone really needs macros even on kaillera unless they are using keyboard where you have restrictions on the no of keys you can press at once depending on your setting and single frame macros are good enough for them.

well i play online because besides of few of us in my area actually play fighters.

most guys like sports i played a tournament once

did fairly well lol

This is basically for Plutoburn and Kyokuji (though if I’m missing any Toronto players that play on Kaillera, my mistake).

We hosting our annual Christmas Tournament on 12/16. Alpha 3 looks to be drawing a large crowd and I’d like you two to attend this tournament as I know you’re both talented A3 players. I know in Kyokuji’s case, it’s a mission to get there but I know there are London players attending and I’m sure you could hitch a ride with someone.

It’d be great to have you guys there.

Well, I used too, now I’m kinda getting overwhelmed by
college and my other gaming leagues& tornaments. Ahhhh…
my friend AJ does go to tornaments like in Orlando, FL.
me and him live not that far away from each other, we play alot
of Netplay and local tornaments. I use to go big but now that’s all him.

I live in london, non of my mates play at competition level or any level. The tourneys are pretty rare here and to top it they happen on arcade machines, i grew up with the controller thus cant play with them at my best so no point. I dont play on kaillera anymore either cos the lag and assholes that crashed games but i just check these forums here and there and felt like posting.

I tihnk I agree with kyokuji. A lot of people who dont live near arcades will proly just play kaillera, like me… but I practice much offline with arcade stick. If i did live near a good arcade, I would prolly be there more than kaillera. As for tourneys Ive only been in one tournament offline at a convention, there was a few really good players in 3s and cvs2.

I dont play because i never kno when they happen. :mad:

I used to play ST on kaillera for a maybe 1-2 hours a day mostly, but i’ve been without an internet connection for about 5 weeks. So i’ve only had offline comp at the arcade. There was a few offline tournaments during this time and i just didn’t feel as confident as i normally do and didn’t do as well in the offline tournaments i played in when i regularly played on kaillera.

Its probably just different from person to person, but i notice very little difference between offline and online. I use the same tactics and have equal if not better accuracy offline. I’ve always thought if you can do some crazy shit online with lag then you can do that crazy shit offline).

By now you’ll probably questioning the competition i have where i am. Well i live and play in London (where 90% of the best of players in England play) so i’m regularly facing extremely good players, and i always do well when i’ve been playing kaillera. It benefits me far more than it hinders me, since i am constantly getting regular practice.

hey how is the speed and lag for MvC1? is it super slow, or even plaayable?

Well, I can say I do play on Kaillera and I do have fun most of the time with A3 and Garou and there are some cheap players who probably wouldn’t last fighting offline. I have to admit Kaillera isn’t the best way of going about getting better in a game, but if you play with an arcade pad eight or six button you guys should be fine. I know if the proper tournament games where emulated there would be some sort of struggle for those on Kaillera if they had no lag, the tournament players got on there to pratice, and used arcade pads then most of them would probably quit playing on Kaillera.

I don’t go out to the Arcade often but when I do, I play and I have fun with it.

Kaillera for Puzzle Fighter, Zbattle for SF. That’s all I need online.

Offline is superior, but nobody plays Puzzle Fighter within a 500 mile radius of me. Hell, hardly anyone plays it ONline anymore… did I scare them all off?

Probably! That games seems like ST where you have to be perfect before you’re even remotely good at it.

I usually play on Kaillera for the hell of it and end up leaving because I lost to some noob who only does jump HK and low MK …then they call that skill. I’ve had many idiots trying to “school” me on what I should or should not do…bitch I’ve been trying to counter the entire game but the lag makes it impossible.

I really should stop going there, losing to noobs hurts my pride :rofl: (not that I go thre often anyways)

Kaillera has at least a .5 second delay, so the game has no time to register my moves (since I execute them about 1 sec before the player lands on me/etc.). For me, it’s very hard to have respect for kaillera players.

Kaillera is only good for streets of rage

kaillera is full of idiots who obviously love lag tactics. just switch from “Good (20 keyframes/s)” to "Excellent (30 keyframes/s)"
only reason to play on 20 keyframes is if your playing a 56ker or some dude from another country.

MORE KEYFRAMES = BETTER GAMEPLAY = no retarded lag tactics

if you got 5-20ms put that to “LAN(60 keyframes/s)” and boom, no lag, just like real life

You can actually use LAN all the way up to 100ms ping if you’re playing on a private, non-Emulinker server. Someone I know had a private server in BC that I pinged 65~70ms to and the input delay was significantly (and when I say significantly I mean significantly) less than Excellent with ~40ms ping. One day he decided to try Emulinker, and games played in slow-motion, so needless to say he went back to a normal server pretty fucking quick.

The problem is that people usually play on Emulinker servers with 70+ people. You can’t even use LAN setting with TWO people if the server is Emulinker. I’m convinced that Kaillera was not built to be played with mega-servers, unless you just don’t give a shit about connection quality at all. Even one player hosting from their own PC (ie giving the host no input delay at all) and then using LAN setting is far better than both having 30ms ping and Excellent because the lag is so minimal with LAN.

Unfortunately everyone thinks Excellent is good enough, when it is really barely acceptable.

It’s a shame there isn’t some kind of balance.
The speed of a default kaillera server and the security of an emulinker one.