How come a lot of Kaillera players dont play in real tournaments?

You would think with all the “talent” on kaillera, they’d fuck shit up in real life.

What’s up?

My suspicion is that they’re too used to the lag, and can’t deal with realtime play anymore. :wgrin:

Some of them do play in offline tournaments. Most of them only think they are good until they play offline and realize their online tactics don’t work.

I think it has more to do with location. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but a lot of us are on kaillera because we don’t live near any local arcades or the competition there sucks. I ‘used’ to be a part of the Toronto scene, but my family moved, so that was the end of that.

Also, some people like RealKim and Walchuk do participate regularly. You just generally see these guys on less, because they have lots of competition near them so they don’t need to be on kaillera all the time.

location, location, location…

Personally I don’t see how anyone that has an arcade within an hour of you woudn’t make their way out to play at least once a month but that’s just me, I travel to a lot of tournies so my perspective is skewed. Either way, I think it boils down to where you are in relation to the majority of your competition.

Oh yeah, and a lot of Kaillera players fucking suck and would get verbally raped if they brought their BS to offline play.

Eh, that’s the whole point of Kaillera really, it enables people to play from home, so it’ll appeal more to the same crowd that won’t wanna travel for a tournament. Not to mention many of the games that a lot of people are interested in during tournaments (3S, MvC2, CvS2, Tekken, etc) aren’t emulated, so the kaillera players aren’t even playing these games all that much. (At least not against anyone.)

I’m sure some people who play on Kail play in tournaments, but generally kaillera is a substitute to competition for many people who live in areas where either no one plays the game they like, they are casual gamers, or for people who have no arcade options.

Social Anxiety Disorder, look it up.

Online play is NOTHING like real play, even if the pings are really low. A lot of top offline players absolutely refuse to play online, or if they do, they usually suck. It’s not something even worth getting used to if you’re interested in offline play, because getting good online usually means you’ll suck offline, and vice versa. The timing online is completely different, hit confirm and block stuns are all different too.

Some people just CANT always make it to certain events due to their occupation.

I’ve been to many tournaments, but i’ve also been in total locked down training, or deployed(iraq, hurricane katrina, etc.) for about near combined 2 of the last 3 years.

Before the Army though, i had been to a few MD tourneys and played tomass in a3 and walchuk in kof, etc. just to name those that you’ve probably seen and played on kal before, so they could easily vouch for the validity of my online and offline play and for them vice versa.

You guys dont know how hard it is for me to try and attend some of these tournaments, especially with the military’s strict rules as far as going 250 miles off post without leave or passes, which have to be approved. And getting things like that approved is based on if you have the leave, and also dependent on how generous your commander in your unit is. Being in a tactical unit, it’s not easy.

However, I SHOULD be going to Final Round X though(i was at 8, but missed 9 last year cause of iraq) in march, so i hope to see some of you A3 players in this section, there, at least for some casual if you guys can.


Also, the best and closest, arcade near this military post had(Mindboggle), is no longer. :sad:

Oh yeah btw, alot of the shit ppl be doing on kal just wont fly offline PERIOD. just cause i can’t take half their life away on kaillera when they whiff and spam gay shit. I refuse to change and alter my game for kaillera play, which is why i take Ls from stupid stuff on here.

i play on kaillera and i got to a good deal of tournies

sometimes u just cant make it out to places cause of work or family shit

but yeah i totaly agree about the playing online and looking like a scrub lol

i still cant get use to the lag…and i dont want to

I used to travel for Tekken but that was before I joined the military, got married, got my wife knocked up and gave a fuck. Just playing in local tournies you will never be known, you’d have to travel. And do these people who travel every year for games have lives? You might be saying yes…ask yourself the same question in 5 years.

Well, your definition of ‘a life’ is very subjective.
Not everyone wants to have kids or whatever.
To me, having a life is having the time to do the things you enjoy. Whatever they may be.

I’m not really talking about the transition from online to offline, I’m saying, these guys obviously have ability to play games, regardless of whether it’s online or offline.

To be good at fighting games, (at least this is what I think stands for good players) you have to have a certain amount of ability. If these mvc1 and xvsf and a3 players can get so good at those respective games, why cant they get as good in mvc2, cvs2, 3s, etc?

Probably because there’s no competition for them to improve on. Most of their comp’ for those games comes from kaillera and MvC2, etc aren’t emulated properly yet.

So the Fayetteville arcade is closed now? Not surprised.

Closest one to you know will either be Raleigh or Columbia.

Evil Morrigan told me that mindboggle had closed, it happened in december when i was already in Iraq.

i’m just starting to RE-learn 3s, cause i didnt like my performance in the tourney i was in for it(and t5 too for that matter) before i deployed, i did much better at fr8 for that game. i didnt have any knowledge of the game either. so i’m definintly not travelling to raleigh/durham to get served on the 16th.

it’s also messed up that for the most part in NC and MD/VA, a3 is dead. But i’ll have some old heads that will be def willing to play when i get my next leave oppurtunity(christmas).

i’m gonna be practicing up 3s for when i get back to MD for christmas, and of course i ALWAYS got a3 marinatin’. And by march i think i can make my 3s game compete for FRX.

It’s a shame that i’ll step into the scene for like 2 tourneys or so, and then i dissappear due to Army business or whatever. But i mean, that’s just life, right now.

Best response to that type of question ever.

Agreed, personally I found Luxxx post pretty insulting. It’s like settling down and having a family is the criteria by which a “life” is determined. If you ask someone who’s single or dating if they think their married friends with babies have a “life” they’d probably tell you no and give a laundry list of reasons.

There’s room to have a healthy social calandar and be active in your gaming community. I hold down a full time job, date regularly, make sure to spend at least one out of the 3 weekend (I count Friday) days out with my non gaming friends and I literally organize the entire SF tourney scene in Ontario and attend out of province tournaments to boot. While I’m not going to say this balancing act is easy or recommended for the average player, it can be done and without any hampering to your “life.”

I don’t think he meant it insultingly, he just means your priorities change when you get a family, and when you have to consider others as well as yourself, than it can make travelling to play in tournaments hard, or even attending them with all that much frequency.

I think you’re reading too much into what he said as a crack on people who do travel, he’s just saying it’s a reason some people cannot, or do not.

Biggest problem.
Even ONE good player makes all the difference. My good friend and biggest rival sorta quit and is more into GO now, so… :frowning:
I sponsor a club at my university to try and get players better and promote fighting games, but they’re usually more into PC games or halo(i imagine things will pick up when SSB:B comes out).
I travel to tournies when I can, but the closest place is an hour and a half away, though I usually have to travel 3-8 hours (depending on which state i head for).
It’s just tough to get around, but with things like SSB:B and ST becoming available online and (hopefully) accessible and tolerable, things will certainly change. I’m quite eager for what the next 5 years has in store for fighting games.