-You’ll die alone.
-You’ll end up miserable.
-Who will take care of you when you’re old.
Remember the 3 shaming tactics backed by women and REAL men to get you into having babies. And shout outs to:
-My boyfriend has the Peter Pan syndrome and doesn’t want to grow up.(pre trap reasoning)
-You men need to man up and get married.(used by women and REAL men which means all this suffering you see? Means nothing to them. )
And always remember, this is acceptable in society because “family is important.” And the US and other countries and men and women alike only care if you have babies. Yeah, you don’t mean anything else. Work harder guys. The women need to be provided for.
Word? Because last I checked, men are enablers. They “love” pussy and think being a real man means getting laid and blindly protecting women who don’t care if you die. This bullshit is not from our generation. This dates way way back. Always wrong to hit a woman but never wrong for a woman to hit/stab/burn/rob/rape/mutilate/kill a man. Because real men don’t complain. And good luck. Women do expect that you’ll buy them shit because you make more money. What’s that? You lift weights? Women think that’s for their benefit too. PUSSY PASS ALL DAY ERRY DAY.
I would argue that in our society women have more power than men. We live in a society controlled not through true physicality like it used to be. Even war is waged through control of information these days not purely on brute strength. A woman can at any time coerce a man into marraige and then take half of his assets, and assets are what determine power in our society. Women have an easier time getting jobs the unemployment rate for women has consistently been lower for the better part of the last half century Womens average income is lower but you have to figure males average assets are calculated including billionares like donald trump and Mark Cuban etc who do not operate within general society. Our system of laws as ,evidenced by this story here, favors women. Women serve lighter sentences, crimes against women also earn heavier sentences, women have lower conviction rates for crimes, win more cases in civil court, and completely dominate family court. Women do have all the power. It’s one of the reasons I find this new feminist movement so ridiculous I find it to be more of a cry for attention than anything.
^Takes a lot of fortitude to tell society to go fuck itself on marriage. So much shaming, whining, and other bullshit, though really like Hatred Edge mentioned it’s nothing new at all. Bachelors in early American society were automatically seen with suspicion and considered potentially dangerous(or just “unmanly”, which is no different from all the “REAL man!” bullshit now). Hell, there used to be fucking “bachelor taxes” for men who were unmarried after a certain age
and you won’t believe the amount of men who just laughed off or dismissed any of the statistics I’ve shown about just why getting a legal marriage(instead of you know, just fucking living with the person you’re so enamored with instead of getting it legally recognized) is a horrifically bad idea, even considering the tax benefits for married couples(also bullshit imo). Their choice and their funeral though.
Shoutout #2: REAL men, my ass. These fools are just pissed that you aren’t in the miserable situation they ended up in cuz they couldn’t keep their dick wrapped, so they try to insult your masculinity when in fact they really want to say (and many have to me) “Man…I wish MY dumb ass was still free to enjoy life. But I fucked up and got this chick pregnant.”
The state, the men, the women. All are selfish and do not care for the destruction of it’s men. As long as someone keeps the cycle going, nothing matters. I won’t put it past the government bringing back a bachelor tax yet again. There was talk in Germany about the same thing a while back. Yes, men will be shamed for not marrying. I’ve gotten the same bullshit.
“What’s wrong with you?”
'You’re crazy."
"Of course you’re getting married."
Similar responses to what other men have gotten. Of course the misandry doesn’t simply end at that either. The more I see and learn, I came to the conclusion: The only concern regarding this by men, women, and the state, is not the well being of the men who are expected to make the sacrifice. The only concern is that of reproduction. Nothing else. That to this day really opened my eyes. It’s absolutely disgusting. Even in the past it was the same. The divorce shaming, the single motherhood shaming, was all to preserve the family unit. Yes, realizing that the world you live in was filled with people like that. Coworkers, family, friends, police, military, teachers, doctors, etc. And of course this is normal.
It’s so bad now that non-Muslims in the UK are getting married in Islamic churches because they know that this type of marriage is not considered a real marriage and cannot be enforced by the UK court system.
All they have to do is get rid of no-fault divorce laws and this entire shit can be solved over night. It’s only now that women are finally starting to get shafted by the court system this issue is coming to light. Nobody gave 2 shits when men were getting thrown in prison over c/s payments for the last 50 years. Now that women are making more money they are the ones ending up paying c/s, crying, and all the white-knights are taking notice at how broken the system is, thus the above documentary.
It’s fucked. Yes, not getting married and being childless will allow you shut out the court system but you will be an evolutionary loser (you can’t pass on your genes into the future). If you have kids you’ll be an evolutionary winner but you’ll likely end up being a slave to c/s payments for 18 years. So the choice is free man with no kids or be a wage slave to the system but be content knowing you had children.
The single-mother shaming needs to come back. Most of society’s fuck-ups are the direct result of being raised by today’s grown women with the minds and maturity levels of 15 year olds. Girls may mature faster than boys in the transition from preteen to teen…but then it’s like they get stuck on mental age 16 until they physically turn 30 or so.
Heterosexual Marriage has traditionally been something that has benefited Men( often at the expense of Women). Studies show the marriage helps Men in regards to personal health and has intangible social benefits for Men. http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/benefits_of_marriage_and_commitment/index.php?cm_mmc=MSNCAN_Lifestyle--MH_News--The%20Perfect%20Age%20to%20Get%20Married-_-The%20Health%20Benefits%20of%20Being%20Married%20RL
Traditionally, Heterosexual Marriage was primarily an advanced form of slavery, where the Man would basically be trading something for a Woman (this was when Women were literally and openly viewed as objects.) and Women would forfeit their right to basically all types of individuality. Women basically had no choice as they were socially engineered to believe that if they couldn’t be married then there wasn’t much else for them to live for (society also supported this view).
George Benard Shaw stated:
"One of the consequences of basing marriage on the considerations stated with cold abhorrence by Saint Paul in the seventh chapter of his epistle to the Corinthians, as being made necessary by the unlikeness of most men to himself, is that the sex slavery involved has become complicated by economic slavery; so that whilst the man defends marriage because he is really defending his pleasures, the woman is even more vehement on the same side because she is defending her only means of livelihood. To a woman without property or marketable talent a husband is more necessary than a master to a dog."
“John Stuart Mill (1806–1873) argued that women’s subordination within marriage originated in physical force—an anomalous holdover of the ‘law of the strongest’. Like Wollstonecraft in her 1792 A Vindication of the Rights of Woman, Mill compared marriage and slavery: under coverture wives had no legal rights, little remedy for abuse, and, worse, were required to live in intimacy with their ‘masters’. This example of an inequality based on force had persisted so long, Mill argued, because all men had an interest in retaining it. Mill challenged the contractual view that entry into marriage was fully voluntary for women, pointing out that their options were so limited that marriage was “only Hobson’s choice, ‘that or none’” (The Subjection of Women, 1869, 29).”
Contrary to popular belief, most Women don’t get much out of divorce(financially and economically). No-fault Divorce has also been proven to possibly lower the economic standing of Women (and usually Children as children tend to be paired with the Mother, mostly due to the sexist belief Women can better take care of children). http://www.yale.edu/yfp/archives/99_12_marriage.html
Also, due to many states reforming their alimony practices, Women aren’t getting “paid out” as much as they used. However, we need to look at why Men primarily pay alimony and child support.
Remember that Men wrote all of the laws in regards to Divorce, Child-rearing and the like. (http://www.lifemanagement.com/fsa8.2.1137). American Divorce law has historically been controlled by White, Christian Men who wrote the laws in accordance with their beliefs. Since most religions are highly sexist, this meant that Women didn’t benefit much from this arrangement. For divorce, the laws were written as it was assumed at the time that a Woman would have no property or assets of her own (she forfeited them when getting married) and that a Man would simply be working all day and not be able to provide care-giving role. Thanks to social progression, we know this is completely untrue and that Fathers do just as well Mothers in terms of raising a child. However, these historically enforced “separate spheres” and “traditional” gender roles (created by the Patriarchy) are toxic, while many Americans know this is wrong, our legal system still has this mentality ingrained into it, something we must work together on changing.
I’m not saying the current laws are okay (The current story above helps prove they aren’t.) and there are issues that Men do face like increased (rates of suicide, facing higher rates of conviction) and it’s good to see many posters above saying that this “Real Man” mentality is B.S, I agree 110% there, don’t let social engineering tell you what to do. However, don’t place the blame on Women as these gender norms were created by Men, for example, the White Feather Campaign in England ( A campaign that made Women shame Men into joining the British Military) was created by the Military (Men) to use Women to oppress other Men. Many Men are cynical about marriage today but that is primarily because of social pressure that pushes “Real Men” to “grow up” and get married factor in a divorce court that is still seeped in sexism ( Women) and prejudice (Men) and it’s no wonder that many Men today don’t feel like getting married. Ask questions and do what you feel is right when thinking about social structures like marriage. Let’s work together to promote equality in our marriage and divorce system, much the problems with it stem from ideas from the past( Many of them very sexist) basically not aging well and not meshing with the world of today along with systematic sexism and gender roles promoted by the Patriarchy. Or you could just not get married, the choice is yours.
At 7 billion people and counting, I’m not too concerned with being an evolutionary loser, there’s no doubt someone out there related to me who’s passed down their genes(including in my immediate family), inclusive fitness is still fitness. And I’m personally also getting tired of armchair biologists who cite the ‘passing down genes’ argument as a shaming tactic to guilt men into marrying and having children like rabbits. No thanks.
On another note, like you said, people didn’t give much of a shit(outside of men’s rights/father’s rights activists mostly) when men were the sole ones getting reamed by the family court/domestic violence/child support holy trifecta. Now that women are getting their turn too people are talking about changing the system(which btw fuck changing the system, abolish family courts outright!). Case in point: Women complaining and feeling ripped off by ever increasing “manimony” situations,
Not happening. Between Sex and the City and Feminism 2.0 (I need feminism because…) it’s close to impossible to slut shame or single mother shame a woman. With the advent of oral contraceptives, morning after pills, abortions, women do not have to put up with any costs from sleeping around with different guys every night. Then on top of that they are rewarded for being the ones to initiate divorce by getting custody and c/s. The stigma associated with being a single mom is gone now since she takes half his assets, gets paid with c/s or welfare AND can go on to find another willing beta provider. There are heaps are idiots out there willing to take in single mothers today. I’m telling you this woman versus man is like an 8 to 1 match up in favor of the woman. If you think being a single mother is bad, look no further than the single dad that doesn’t see his kids and is a payment away from being thrown in jail from c/s.
Good luck with that. Trying criticizing women. “You’re just bitter.” “You hate women.” “You need to get laid.” “Some girl broke your heart.” Denial, shaming, and deflection. That’s what you’ll be met with. You even see this on SRK. Pointing out anything negative regarding the female race= WOMAN HATE SPEECH. You’re supposed to love them no matter what. You know damn well our society developed holding men fully responsible for everything and sparing men no quarter. Women have gotten lesser punishments. Remember that. Now think… what politician is going to put women on blast for helping to ruin the country? None. What man can? He will be destroyed. “Mothers are untouchable.”
I am more than willing to pay that price. More than willing.
For fucks sake Ginyu stop with the patriarchy bullshit,
Women have numerous situations where they have advantage and authority over men, and not all women worldwide experience universal oppression, nor are the ones who are oppressed oppressed in the same way, or for the same reason(“just because they’re wimminz”). Feminists and their tendency to universalize the experiences of women across the world and speak on their behalf is bullshit of the highest order.
This is really outta hand I guess the Islamic marriages in theUK are fast thinkers. I honestly feel marriage can be cool but I also feel its structure is outdated. I mean if I was with someone for 20 unmarried wouldnt make a difference if we were marred except minor benefits. But leaving a marriage js ridiculous because its not “Blah blah not happy we gotta split” andthen leave.
You literally gotta have a cout room batle to protect your money and whatever th spouse is tryng to get. Wtf is a spousal support? You get fined for breaking up.Nt to mention custody battles and ridiculous child suport. I feel bad for people like celebs who both got hella money but if tbey splt the man is fined an unreal amount of chid support.
I think cultures and religions who have specific marriages should stick to that to save themselves from being broken if they wanna breakup. Because a prenup really aint shit and is presented as false hope for easy divorce if it comes to it
