Honest questions to those that complain about Chun-Li

3S Chun is fun to fight, IMO.

I play Elena, so I have a hard time against her, but it’s fun.

3s is the best fighting game ever…everyone can beat everyone…the listing of tiers operates on another plane compared to most games because of the mechanics and parry system.

People who think Chun and Yun are literally game breaking aren’t good/knowledgable players.

^ dat

That pyrolee guy up there, he plays at Denjin and he doesn’t afraid of anything. He’s also really good at this game.

gamebreaking? of course not. but, you know…

2003 – Ken, Yun, Makoto
2004 - Ken, Chun-Li, Yun
2005 – Chun-Li, Ken
2006 – Chun-Li, Ken, Yun
2007 – Chun-Li, Yun, Makoto
2008 – Akuma, Makoto, Chun-Li
2009 – Chun-Li, Yun, Makoto
2010 – Ken, Yun, Chun-Li

those are the teams that have won tougeki. you know that tournament from japan, with all the players you guys jerk off over. all but one of those teams contains chun li. all but two contain yun.

of course that’s just a coincidence right? all of japan’s low tier players just need to step it up right?

Shockingly stupid.

some of the best overall payers in japan use chun li.

MOV, nuki, rikimaru are not tougeki champions because they use chun li.

"it’s just a coincidence that the frequency of the 4 most popular characters in first place SBO teams literally runs down the first 4 points of the tier list, in order. it’s just a coincidence that the best players happen to use those characters, guys! if mov, spellmaster j and nitto switched characters with yamazaki, hayao and pino they’d still be winning all the tournaments because they’re just that good!"

  • this is what 3rd strike sycophants actually believe

welcome to the lunatic world of 3rd strike, where statistics, common sense, and basic logic are sacrificed at the altar of calls to “step up your game” and the delusional notion than parrying somehow turns the game into a magical voodoo fairy land where every character stands an equal chance of winning.

Stop Third Strike Exceptionalism!

seriously guys, “anyone can win because parries” was something you could get away with saying in 2004 when nobody outside of japan knew shit about the game. in 2011 it’s just laughable. it’s obvious that the mental path that’s got you here is the realisation that the empirical reality of 3S doesn’t mesh with your stoned hippie fairyland ideas about this game that’s just, like, so different from other games, dude, 'cause it’s all about reading the mind of the opponent, maaaan. unfortunately upon realising the dissonance here you’ve chosen to hold onto the bullshit belief and staunchly deny reality in the face of mind-blowingly abundant evidence.

i’m here to help you guys accept reality. this doesn’t make you a Bad Person. it doesn’t make you a Bad Third Strike Fan. it doesn’t make 3S a Bad Game. it isn’t going to make you worse at the game. it doesn’t mean you can’t still Step Up Your Game, and demand that others do the same.

please, for the sake of everyone that has to listen to your delusional bullshit.

This shit is funny.

obviously the tiers matter. But when players become very good at the game they CAN win with lower tier chaarcters, but yeah it’s still a uphill battle.

I think Chun Li is not “game breaking”, but she is obviously well over the top compared to a lot of the cast. And that is reason enough why people will complain about her, it’s just natural I guess.

MOV, nuki, rikimaru are obviously all very good players, but they do choose to play Chun Li at tournaments, and that speaks volumes really. It’s not like they don’t know how to play other characters, they do but they still go for ChunLi almost every time.

great joke man

you and that good game player dude are kind of morons huh?

an 8-2 matchup is an 8-2 matchup in any game. when people start talking about how an 8-2 matchup in one game is more winnable than an 8-2 matchup in another game, treat it with the same credibility you would someone saying “well, sometimes two plus two equals five”. they’re saying something that is fundamentally mathematically nonsensical.

(of course, if we could get you guys to the point where you even accept that good and bad matchups exist i’d consider that a partial victory.)

it’s possible that what is influencing this perception is the fact that some games have higher variance, i.e. it takes a greater amount of matches for the real numbers to converge on the theoretical matchup values, because the game is more random. whether 3s is a high variance game can be disputed, but when you can do massive damage off a 50/50 guess…

Why are you saying this here? You’re probably not playing the game, know probably nothing besides numbers read here and there, and most of all, no one here really care about.
Take a breath, drink some beer and do something else than playing this obviously unbalanced crappy game.
Please.

it’s funny that you think i think the game is crappy because i accept the reality of its balance, because it really betrays the pathetically insecure thought process behind the insanity at play here: if the game is unbalanced it is bad, the game isn’t bad, therefore it isn’t unbalanced.

but - get this! you can like the game and still accept that some characters are massively superior to others! you can even think that whining about it is dumb (and i’d agree with you)! but please, don’t try to deny facts in the face of a wealth of evidence.

lol

Not sure if this guy knows hes like… 12 years late.

Everybody knows how great the top tier characters are, nobody was denying that. While you were making your account to troll, you must have missed the part where we were discussing the fact that yes, these characters are great, but that doesn’t make them unbeatable. Kuroda has proven this in Tougeki before, taking out top tier characters with Q, some of them being the best players in Japan. Tougeki results mean nothing, if there were no more tournaments for Third Strike, do you think people would stop trying to improve? No, because the game is about self improvement, what do you think Danisen Battles are for? To level you up, to track your progress, to see if you can come back and see improvement week after week. What you’re trying to explain to us hippies is that the game is old, involves guessing and is unbalanced, but what you cant seem to comprehend is that none of us really give a fuck, it’s fun, and it’s leagues better then the rest of the trash available to play.

Stay free fagboy.

Chun is fine. She exists so that we can teach whinny scrubs to STFU and quit crying about “balance” and “broken” whenever any character does as much as win a couple of matches against them.

wow, it’s almost like player skill is more important than matchups…just like every other game ever made

the problem with 3s fans is that they somehow parlay this patently obvious fact into thinking that no bad matchup is as bad as it’s made out to be, or that bad balance is somehow a feature in the game’s favour, rather than something the game is good in spite of.

it’s like no feature of 3s can be acknowledged to be bad, because then the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. i think i understand why 3s has developed such an insecure culture around it, it’s because all the OGs thought the game was ass, but you’ve all gone totally overboard in defending your game and made yourselves appear ridiculous to anyone who isn’t already a 3s sycophant in the process. there’s a good reason watson makes fun of you guys.

This shit is funny.