nice to hear from you haitian, u2 is 2 frames and the hhs nerf is ALL speculation, jab might be faster hhs might cancel slower or the 5 inputs needs to be lightning fast. These are a few of the rumors ppl started
For serious, I was canceling jab into hands with no issues whatsoever. I did it fast, I did it slow, same rates that I do on console, itās just as easy. I was able to whiff jab into empty hands with the same 5 button presses as I do now.
as mr. snk said, looks like weāll need to implement those ex hands combos from now on to make up for the damage nerfs.
ā¦unless they fucked up his meter gain too, but i dont think they did.
Use EX hands ? HHS was so good because it was meterless. You can spam it and lose nothing cus its safe on block and it doesnāt cost meter.Not only you didnāt lose anything, you gained meter.
It would be a huge waste to lose EX bar if your EX HHS gets blocked. Thatās one less EX headbutt.What makes this even worst is that you need your EX headbutt more then ever since the lp headbutt was nerfed as AA.
well, say goodbye to those damaging 1/3 of your health combos because its going to be a thing of the past with regular hands.
This is why youāre losing. Period. I can understand that you like to rush down, but you canāt just arbitrarily decide that match ups should be played in a way that suits your play style. Would you approach a Zangief player? Of course not. Then why would you approach Rufus? Heās just as dangerous when he gets in, maybe even more so. Youāre giving him a chance to do what heās best at for free.
Farm meter in this match up. Cr. jab xx HHS, HHS, walk up cr. jab xx HHS, st. RH should build you close to a full stock. Rufus canāt really do a whole lot against pressure strings in the first round, so itās a good time to build meter.
Rufusā forward throw actually does 150 damage, and it sets up safe jumps and ambiguous dive kicks. So youāre actually putting yourself in a worse situation by not trying to tech throws; Iād rather deal with dive kick mix ups while standing than having to guess while on my back. Honda is free on wake up to Rufus.
And you donāt always have the luxury of losing several matches to Rufus first before figuring out his patterns. You have to take risks on defense or else heāll overwhelm you. I like the calculated use of LK Butt Slam and EX Headbutt in this match up. Donāt just throw them out the second you have a chance; LK Butt Slam will beat instant dive kicks and throws, EX Headbutt will beat pressure strings after dive kicks. You have to anticipate what heās going to do, you have to think actively. Once he starts trying to bait you, youāre at an advantage; itās easier to get out on defense when your opponent is respecting reversals.
Yeah I suspect Capcom wants us to us ex hands for punishes. If they lowered the start up on standing jab then its now what, a 2 frame link? Not too bad. I just wonder how far c. mk > ex hhs > jab > hhs > st.rh will actually get us.
Unfortunately not man. EX HHS is +4 on hit. Standing jab has 6F of start up in Super, and I imagine itās no faster than 4F in AE. That would make it as fast as cr. jab, so weāre not any better off in that regard.
You make some good points, I guess we just go about the matchup in different ways. I try to strike a balance between blocking any divekick mixups and using ex headbutt as a reversal to make the rufus always second guess himself when heās up close.
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for rufus matchup - maybe this will help - my approach to rufus - well, I dash hands alot, that always seems to help in certain matchups where you want to stay to the ground - I know that helped me alot here and not all Hondas like doing that
idk iāve done 75% combos on viperā¦with a jump in and a superā¦but regardless thats alot of fucking damage the nerf is going to allow us to turtle more and jump less with mp being nerfed to shit apparently. Jab hb needs to find a new use and iāll be happy
OH HEY JEWELMAN DONāT GET BLOWN UP IN THAT āCOMEBACK COMPILATIONā TOO HARD. HA HA HA
no but seriously sagat is a tough fight and moshtaba is good. it is okay to lose.
Jewelman getting put on blast 
I was wondering when someone was gonna do it 
lol i had life leads in all those laggy matches and just got hit by everything i dont think either of us were really playing
canada to florida to texas = no bueno
No shame in losing to Mosh, he was considered a āchild prodigyā here in Toronto back in 2009. The first tournament he ever went to, he won. Second tournament he ever went to, he won, beating JS Master in the grand finals. Mind you JS Master wasnāt as good then as he is now, but he still dominated vanilla in Toronto.
The vast majority of his SF4 experience came from online play. SF4 was also the first fighting game he played competitvely. I lot of people hated him back then, and his cousins and brothers, who would show up to these events and get hype. :lol:
Has no one tried to use lp hb to bait throws, etc. yet? I thought that thatās what everyone figured it was going to be good for, but no reports of it workingā¦ Kinda wish there were arcades still around DCā¦
unless they changed it in ae, lp headbutt is throwable on startup.
Itās still throwable on start up and he can also get jabbed out of it now. Itās good for sailing over low attacks and maybe trading with some pokes.
I really like your use of focus attacks against predictable dive kicks, thatās something I will definitely incorporate into my game. Honda is at +3 after a blocked level 2 FA; that means if Rufus EX Messiahs, cr. jab will recover in time. If he tries to poke or dive kick, heāll get tagged.