So, say your living is making, I dunno, red shoes. Just go with it. For a few years, red shoes aren’t popular, and stores, particularly large chains won’t carry them. Suddenly, red shoes become popular again. You’re selling twice as well as before with your low volume sales. The big stores can now profitably carry your product. So being from SRK, you tell them “fuck that, why weren’t you bleeding money when no-one gave a shit about our crap. I’m totally able to pay my bills now, why the fuck would I want to get a nicer car or a new TV or something?”
If that’s nefarious to you, you might just be a communist. It’s an absolutely garbage line of argument, and it sounds so god damn whiny.
Uh, that analogy would make more sense if say, you were the one making the red shoes, or you had a group of people making the red shoes from the start.
Ok, not really, it’s competitive entertainment versus footwear.
Last I checked boxing and ufc entertainments have been thriving. You know what the prinicple action in those organziations have are? Fighting. Fighting will always been popular, whether its fiction or real. Casually the players may have moved on to different games and genre’s, but guess what? All those other genre’s have fighting in it too! It really wouldn’t be that much of a stretch to assume that maybe all these people buying CoD, God of War, DMC for the fighting in the game (be it with weapons, hand to hand or whatever), would be interested in watching a game that has nothing BUT FIGHTING!
Nevermind the fact that tournament attendence generally has been on the rise for the last 10 years. So to say that it isn’t popular would be false.
Also, can get that new TV or car in 6 years when you finally decide to pay?
Your analogy is so fundamentally flawed I’m not even sure where to start. Instead of suggesting I’m the one communist on the face of the planet that would be unhappy if the color red were to suddenly experience a burst of popularity, perhaps you’d care to address my points?
Making money is in no way nefarious to me. Perhaps you see my location and think it’s still the 1960s. Actually, I’m suggesting that I’d prefer to exercise my consumer sovereignty by supporting businesses that have in the past supported my interests, instead of supporting business that don’t.
I look forward to seeing how you turn the above statement into communist rhetoric.
That when it happens you just ignore it and hope it dies off?
While I’m here, people mention why does mlg suddenly give a shit, my guess would simply be sf4 is currently doing pretty well mainstream wise compared the ones before it, it’s actually new pretty much, and it’s pretty now that it’s on shiny 3D so it’ll appeal to a broader group of people :). I stole this from someone, not sure who but made sense to me, to a casual what appeals more to them? Way people word their posts it’s as if they are assuming mlg has some super secret agenda aside simply expanding their roster of games.
I can’t help but wonder why the Tekken community seems to be much more receptive to the idea than the SF community. MLG seems to have changed their ways, this could be a golden opportunity for them to add a game that’s both popular and not a steaming pile of shit to their roster. What can realistically go wrong with this decision that will negatively impact the community in the long term?
It wont negatively affect it in the long term. It will only negatively affect it for however long its in MLG. Which when you compare it to NOT being negatively affected at all by NOT having it in MLG is still worse than what we have now.
And how would it be negatively affected whilst in MLG, realistically? I see people saying that every tournament will be online and among terrible players with sponsors behind them and blah blah slippery slope, but I don’t see very supportive evidence for those arguments, nor how this would affect the community and why they couldn’t just be ignored.
Welcome to life. Past performance has consequences, especially for corporations. There are lots of people who won’t buy a Toyota now even though they have no first hand experience with inadvertent acceleration.
All of this was true from 2005 to 2009 when…MLG was a dick to Tekken and Street Fighter players. In 2005 it goes beyond not paying winners. The SF players were told to “keep it down” because our rowdy behavior (I believe the technical term for it is hype) was hurting the concentration of the Halo players. And ever since MLG has basically steered clear of the FGC. It’s going to take a lot more than one twivid video to assuage people’s suspicions here.
Just to keep it real…no we can’t. All that glitz costs a lot of cash, and I don’t see any community run event matching the level of polish that these pro leagues can put out. But does it matter? Do you go to tournaments for the glitz or for the players, the passion, and the competition?
Pros:
More media exposure for FGC(The real ones…)
Bigger Pots
Big name players get big contracts and real sponsors
Cons:
Big players no longer come to “grassroots” tournaments (MLG Events only)
Current big name tournaments will lose the hype(you can argue they won’t but lets be serious)
Mid-Size tournament will die
A growing skill gap between top players and mid-levels
Issues if MLG did adopt SF specifically: POSSIBLE Wrongful character bans
Online qualifers :lame:
Cus they won’t affect them, thinking so is fairly silly. Also the worry of character ban is stupid aswell(even tho I think WCG does for whatever reason), there’s more than enough evidence for not banning anyone for them to ignore it all and do it for fun(unless you assume mlg completely doesn’t listen to the community of games, also fairly silly).
No they won’t, but if they run a tournament parallel to these then the community becomes split and the skill level that is displayed will become skewed. We’ll have random champions depending on who jumps the fence and who stays and people will say hmm… this tournament for big money, or this tournament for the community. Higher level players will obviously go to the money, so do you want to follow the skill or follow the grassroots? Walmart or mom and pop store? Hmm…
Eventually everyone will want the money and tournaments like EVO, MWC, SB, NEC, and Devastation lose attendees because there’s a promised multi-grand pot for winning an MLG tournament where most likely at the community run tournaments besides maybe EVO, they can promise most of the time 70/20/10 and with some luck and really early planning a sponsored pot.
That is true, I don’t think big majors will have all that worry( unless mlg is indeed evil as people say and do It on purpose) but lower key ones might take somewhat of a hit.
honestly if we got assurances that the contracts would not have exclusivity clauses to prevent players from attending current regionals and majors, assurances that no characters would be banned and that they would respect our current regional/majors dates then i don’t see how this could possibly be a bad thing for the FGC.
it’s all about getting the right contract, and i see no downside to at least trying to see if we can get a contract that works for the community, and that is something that capcom is 100% capable of negotiating before signing sf4 up to be licensed for MLG to use.