Head Games: Ms. Fortune Character Guide v 1.9

As a solo Ms. Fortune player, I’ve had a lot of different matches on PSN (guitalex2007) and XBL (guitalex2010) and would like to offer my take on different aspects of Ms. Fortune. Obviously, input is appreciated. Hopefully at one point this will become more than just my experiences.


Ms. Fortune’s normals are pretty decent. Her s.LP chains into itself and s.MK has two hits, both of which allow you to hit confirm. Her s.HK stuffs most short range aerial light attacks, but being the launcher itself it’s hard to hit confirm. The easiest way to react to it is j.MK, giving you the two hit window to think about what to do next.

Her aerial normals let her have more aerial dominance than many characters. j.HK is Flying Screen Door, and is a great way to stuff flying Painwheels or jump happy Parasouls (provided you super jump). You can also stuff super jumps by regular jump j.HK, because the hitbox is the whole frontal part of the kick. It also allows for crossups from a Fiber Upper with air followup. Her j.MK is a weird one, and will allow you to change your jump arc. If you’re a fan of that junk, like I am, then you should know that hitting j.MK at the near peak of your jump coming down makes the second part hit standing opponents. Also, it can link and combo easily from an IAD j.LK, then on hit or block can be cancelled to air qcb+MK, leaving you safe enough to block, or giving you enough hitstun to continue. The j.MK is also the normal of choice to cancel into qcb+P to remove your head, causing a ground bounce that will not necessarily use up your OTG if you follow up correctly. Her j.MK really is a great way to space your responses, and will come in handy to position the head when headless.

Her head-on j.HP deserves mention only because it is one of her best IAD moves. Additionally, after a j.HP you can air dash into another j.HP, or even into j.MK, which cancels into qcb+K or qcb+P.

Her crouching normals are OK. c.LK is pretty fast, but can’t be chained as easily as s.LP. c.LP chains into itself and has fast startup, allowing to hit confirm. Her c.MP is a hidden gem I’ve found; it makes most aerial attacks whiff or trade with correct timing. This is because her hurtboxes are lowered almost to ground level, while the active hitboxes are raised diagonally up. It can stuff or trade Filia’s IAD normals, and you can option select to cancel into s.HK launcher and remain at a relatively safe distance even on block. Her c.MP, however, is unable to stuff Parasoul’s j.HP or most of Painwheel’s normals. For those you’ll need to use dp+K. Her c.HK hits twice and has decent range, but after the second hit the opponent will be invincible until they get to OTG state (and if you used your one OTG, nothing will hit). Like any of her normals, it’s cancellable into a move or blockbuster. In case of c.HK, cancel the first hit if you want to follow up.

Her throw is a good way to start combos, but only in the corner. Outside of the corner, her throw pushes the opponent too far to follow up with anything EXCEPT her qcf+PP blockbuster. In the corner, however, it can also combo into her qcb+PP level 3 blockbuster. If done with correct timing, the OTG will not be used, and a c.MP->s.HK can connect after it. You cana lso throw the opponent towards the head if headless, OTG with HP and dash in s.MP, delay s.MK into a sandwich combo (see Sandwich Combos for information).

Her air throw creates a ground state that is quickly teched afterwards so nothing can follow up at full height, except either her qcb+KK blockbuster or her qcb+PP level 3 blockbuster. If you manage to do it low enough, however, you’ll be able to connect a j.LK OTG, land, c.LK, s.MK and continue from there. There are certain ways to get that low in the air. Additionally, if the head is anywhere near you in the floor, you can OTG with HP, land, s.MP, delay s.MK and continue.

Her outtake (snapback) is actually pretty decent. It can trade with many aerial normals because of its long hitbox (it’s in front of her golf swing). The important aspect to remember is where the hitbox is (NOT directly under you, instead it’s a half circle in front), and you want to be aware of that because you can hit the head with the outtake, forcing the head to bounce around. If the head hits the opponent, it will perform the outtake and they will be forced to switch. Make sure that if you’re doing the outtake to bring partner 2, that you combo your own head into it to prevent it from doing the sneeze which is invincible at startup. If the sneeze hits the opponent after the outtake hit does, the opponent will not leave the screen, so watch out for that. Reasons to hit your own head: Parasoul, Painwheel, Peacock, or anyone who spends half the day in the air doing shit.

Her tag in with her head on hits opponents midscreen with a knockdown, so there’s not much use. With the head off, as soon as you hit the tag buttons you’re actually able to control the head completely, making it attack for you. Otherwise you just hop in.


Nadia has plenty of variety in her specials. Her qcf+P is a “rekka” style move, meaning the input can be repeated up to three times to make her follow the move up with two move attacks. The LP version is quick and does less damage, MP is slower and does more damage and so forth. The HP version is too slow to start, unless an assist is holding the opponent in place or a chain ends in HP. The timing for repeating the input changes with each strength as well.

She also has two optional followups that end the “rekka” chain but offer different outcomes. Either of these followups may be the second or third followup in the chain. qcf+K will make her slide and hit low. This is not safe, but on hit provides an OTG opportunity because she recovers before the opponent is able to tech (unless he’s already hit the ground once before). qcb+K is slow to start (can be stuffed with light attacks), but instead has her jump and hit an overhead attack, perfect for people who like to block low or expect the slide move. If you plan on using this, consider using the head to protect yourself. More “head games” later.

Her anti-air of choice is her dp+K (Nyantiair, also nicknamed Fiber Upper). LK version comes out very quick and has invincibility during the whole startup and during the first active frames. It can, as a result, outprioritize every move in the ground or in the air with correct positioning and timing. MK version has some invincibility and reaches further up, but has no invincibility immediately before its active frames or at any point after, so it can be stuffed. It’s also slower to start up and recover. HK version has full invincibility at the very start (but stops being invincible longer before the active frames), and although it’s slower to start up it hits the highest; it hits Painwheel out of flight or anyone out of super jump height. The interesting thing about this move is its K followup. When the move is at its peak (on hit or whiff only), hitting K will reform the body in the air. With proper positioning and height, this can provide good crossups with j.LP/LK/HK, throw opportunities in the air, or full combos by timing a j.LK, j.MK, qcb+MK after the hit, then getting a c.LK OTG and continue. Any version can stuff or trade every normal in the game, with proper timing. The HK version can even make throw attempts whiff on startup.

Her qcb+K in the air is a great way to alter your jump arc as well as end your aerial chains without using meter, or provide an OTG opportunity to continue. LK version comes out fairly quick, but sends the opponent falling in a slower speed. MK version comes out slightly slower, but the opponent will fall a bit faster. HK version comes out the slowest (even though it will still easily combo from j.MK;s second hit), and creates a ground bounce on opponents on the ground (where s.LP into a combo will not use the OTG) and a sliding knockdown on aerial opponents. Letting the opponents fall at different speeds is crucial for your “head” games, depending on positioning.


Head-on qcf+PP is mostly safe on block, except to throws. Online is a different story. However, it’s not positive on block, so you can never frame trap with it. On hit, the last hit will cause a sliding knockdown. If the opponent hasn’t hit the ground yet (a purple circle forms on the ground when this happens), in the corner it’s possible to follow up with another qcf+PP or a c.LK into a corner combo.

Headless qcf+PP is totally not safe. If the opponent happens to block everything and the head is close to you, you can call the head to attack. If close enough and fast enough, the head will keep the opponent in block stun (or hit them) and it turns the move a bit safer. On hit, the move will launch the opponent in the air behind Fortune. If the head is there, it provides a followup opportunity with qcb+HP, but only if the opponent has not hit the ground before.

Air qcb+KK is also not safe, although hitting your own head provides some cover but not all the time. It’s invincible on startup (so it can be used on j.HP-happy Parasouls and Painwheels), and has a large hitbox aimed downward at an angle. If the head is behind Fortune, it can OTG (or with most of the cast, catch them before they hit the ground) and provide a followup. Same with qcf+PP; if the head is close enough to the opponent it can provide some cover, but don’t expect this to save you often.

“Head” Games

qcb+P makes Ms. Fortune remove her head. Instantly, she’s become the most hated character in the game next to solo Cerebella or anyone with Double assist. The reason is because with it, she can zone opponents and force them to take to the skies or continually block, none of which are good ideas against Fortune. Removing your head is invincible on startup, so using it on Painwheels approaching or IAD’ing Filias is a good idea. On close hit, removing the head will stagger and give you a free combo opportunity. Anything further than touching distance may not stagger. The air version provides a ground bounce on hit.

Now is when Ms. Fortune’s game is stepped up. While with her head on she had great HP normals with good damage, removing the head allows for more followups and mixups leading to potentially more damage.

There are drawbacks. First of all, qcf+HP will be disabled. Secondly, any chains, ground or air, will have to end in a move or HK, since HP is unavailable. Third, and most glaringly, your head cannot block, and will always take half damage. If the head is close enough to you to get hit by any attacks that are hitting you, you’re essentially taking 150% damage.

To reattach your head, perform a ground qcb+LP or qcb+MP but hold the button as the head approaches. If you let go at any moment, the head will stay where it is at that moment. Coincidentally, qcb+LP is a way to keep slower normals safe if you just tap it (similar to Parasoul’s LK Egret).

The head disables your HP because it is now your HP. Hitting HP will make the head do a small dash into a headbutt that simply hits the opponent, with a good amount of hitstun. This allows for the dreaded sandwich combo if the head is behind the opponent, because any normal into s.MK allows the head to recover from HP enough to link another HP and keep going. This move will move the head a small distance, but recovers very fast.

Another way to move the head is f+HP or b+HP. The head will slide about half a screen in the direction you’re holding (even though it looks like it hits low, any head attacks can be guarded while standing). This is a great way to move the head fast enough, whether to quickly reposition it for a combo or move it toward (or away from) the opponent.

A third way to move the head is qcb+HP. While LP and MP call the head back, qcb+HP will make the head start a slow dash, which is shorter than the f/b+HP distance. If the head is not blocked, the opponent is now trapped in OMNOMNOM. While this is happening, the opponent cannot move, block or call assists. You can hit the opponent out of this state to continue a combo. Note that this is a special move, while other head moves shown before this are head normals. Thus, either HP, f+HP or b+HP can be cancelled into qcb+HP. Note that this does not move the head too much, but has the most recovery out of any head moves. This move will hit OTG easily, and against most of the cast can hit them for multiple OTGs if timed right (not actually OTG, but being active while the opponent lands on it). Note: Using OMNOMNOM as a multiple OTG will NEVER work against Filia, Cerebella or Double. Their hitboxes are weird, thus when their physical bodies hit the ground their hurtboxes are not low enough to the ground for any head followups to catch before the OTG, meaning also that if you used the OTG you cannot catch them again.

The last way to move your head is to use dp+HP. It is an anti-air where the head sneezes. The head will always go toward the opponent with the sneeze. Additionally, the head is, like many other DPs, invincible at startup. Use it to relaunch opponents as you’re in the air or against those pesky people who like to just hit the head instead of having to deal with you.

Here are key things you need to watch out for in your “head” games:

  1. Always keep the head between you and your opponent, under the opponent or behind the opponent. NEVER under you or behind you. If the head is behind you, call it back or f+HP. If the head is in front of you, the following moves can eat a dick (as of the patched version):

Double’s Car
Double’s Level 3 (if the first hit hit the head)
Parasoul’s Egret blockbuster
Valentine’s OTG scalpels
Peacock’s car bombs or slow bomb

The end result is that the head will, unable to block, take half damage, but Ms. Fortune’s body is completely unharmed and able to recover and retaliate. Because some attacks lose their hitbox once they connect (especially projectiles), they will hit the head once and lose their hitbox. For example, you may be tempted to laugh as a Double tries an OTG car against you. The head will take half the damage, but the car will lose the hitbox, allowing Fortune to stand up, stretch, look at her watch, then smack Double into submission when she reappears. The moral of the story is keep the head between you and the opponent, on the opponent or behind the opponent.

  1. When outside of the screen, the head is never too far. A b+HP is enough to bring it close enough for an OTG in a combo. Even when you think you left the head at the other corner, there is a secret edge to the screen where all game assets have to be within. The head is therefore dragged with this invisible barrier, and most people don’t realize it.

  2. You can move the head with any of the moves above at any time the head is not recovering or being hit and the body is not being hit or blocking. If the body is hit or put into blockstun, anything the head is doing (except dp+HP) is interrupted and the head stays in place and loses any hitboxes (but can still be hit). It can also not be called DURING your blockbusters. However, the head is ALWAYS available for movement after the last active frames of Blockbusters. Which means that an air qcb+KK can be followed up with qcb+HP or f/b+HP to continue (or to try to hit the opponent before they punish a blocked blockbuster). If you position the head correctly, most of the cast (except Filia, Cerebella or Double) can be hit by qcb+HP every time if timed correctly. To time correctly means to have the qcb+HP already in movement when they land directly on it. Timing is everything, and you must have the correct positioning. Practice makes perfect.

  3. Know when to keep your head. Having your head out there is a great asset, but it is taking damage constantly. In some situations (keepaway) you want the head to take hits from you. But in some cases it’s better to call your head and keep that invincible qcb+P head roll available (aggressive players). If you’re not doing anything or planning anything with the head, recall it.

  4. Know where your head is. When outside of the screen, you know it’s close. But make sure that in the training room you analyze exactly how far all your BNBs move you in the air, and whether you need to tap HP or f/b+HP during j.MK to reposition the head before qcb+KK hits. Once qcb+KK comes out, you’re unable to control the head until afterwards for the OTG, so make sure you’re comfortable with positioning the head. A trick with the correct range is to hit dp+HP after qcb+KK, then connect with j.LP into combo or into throw. This throw is low enough to link into a j.LK if the OTG hasn’t been used.

  5. Know when to smack yourself. Any normals you do will hit the head and turn it into an active hitbox to hit the opponent with. This will create hard to escape situations because pushblock will be stopped by the head. Additionally, it will add a small bit of blockstun or hitstun. However, there is one situation where you have to be wary of doing it… close s.HK. Your launcher will hit your head into the air, but the head will then hit the opponent, cutting their launch short. You can easily follow up with qcb+LK/MK into qcb+KK, but if you want your combos to be long and fruitful, you have to know about negative edge. An additional advantage of hitting your own head would be to cancel the recovery of any head moves. The head will go through whatever trajectory the attack forces (so light attacks are recommended) and as soon as it hits the ground again it will be ready for another move.

Negative edge is a term used meaning that releasing a button is counted as another button press in order to make moves come out easier without having such a tight input window. The game has it, and you will likely only use it for ONE major purpose: when you’re holding HP and your head is off, it will be invincible to your own attacks, allowing s.HK or any normals/specials/blockbusters to hit without hitting your own head, and being interrupted by your own attacks. Letting go of HP will count as having hit HP, so you can do HP, f/b+HP, qcb+HP or dp+HP by doing the motions, then letting the button go).

An example is having the head in the corner. Hold HP and do qcf+MP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP then let go of HP and do qcb+HP. The end result is the head will be invincible to your Rekkas. Then when you let go of HP, the head will do its HP headbutt, then you’ll cancel it into OMNOMNOM. If you wish to keep comboing and relaunch, you’ll need to hold HP again (or use it immediately before s.HK). THIS will take practice, but in theory you could keep your opponent in a very tight blockstring using qcf+MP (holding HP), qcf+MP, qcb+K (letting go of HP XX qcb+HP, hold HP again) ground chain, launch, combo, OTG head (letting go of HP for it), etc.

  1. Know when to fake a head recall. Recalling the head only works as long as you hold down the button, but is still a special move. You can cancel unsafe strings on block into a quick qcb+LP/MP tap to cancel. It doesn’t become completely safe, but it allows you to block the punishment most of the time.

Team Strategies

You have various possibilities for assist attacks. Her dp+HK covers a lot of vertical ground, hitting as high as super jumps and flying Painwheels to IAD Filias due to its initial invincibility. (Thanks to AceZTeller)

Others will be posted as suggested.


Painwheel - Expect to be rushed down. That does not say much, but with two to three possible flights and multi-hitting normals to get out of flight, she can hit confirm you into eternity. Smacking her down from the air is a top priority since she cannot block in flight. A super jump, double jump, air dash, j.HK is usually enough to reach her, but in case it fails, dp+K is a godsend. dp+LK stuffs or trades most of Painwheel’s aerial normals, dp+MK has more range and dp+HK should be reserved for chasing her down or hitting her while in flight. In any case of dp+K hitting, always follow up. It can lead to a combo or a j.HK. Don’t forget to pushblock the last hits of multi-hitting normals, and always attempt a throw tech between normals if you feel there’s a slight pause. If you are absolutely certain a throw tech is incoming, qcb+KK in the air or qcf+PP on the ground can work as a tech due to the initial invincibility frames. Most importantly when getting rushed down, pushblock the normal that you know is unsafe: s.HK, s.HP and c.HP are good candidates. You may think I’m insane, but the reasoning is that a good Painwheel also knows that’s unsafe, and will flight cancel the normal to make it safe and keep rushing. Pushblock that normal, and a simple dash back or jump is enough to be outside the reach of her inevitable cancelled normal. Beware of air throws.

Double - Stay further than midscreen, head under the opponent. Anticipate a Hornet Bomber into Cattelites by air dashing back, always f+HP or B+HP cancelled into Nom to keep Double on her toes. If you see a Hornet Bomber coming, jump back and prepare to block. On whiff, punish. On block, pushblock the last hit. If it’s cancelled into Cattelites on whiff, qcb+KK to punish, then stay in the air for the remainder of Cattelites, regardless of damage to the head. If it’s cancelled on block, try an aerial attack to hit Double (since she’ll be hitting an attack for the Cattelites), preferably s.LK but qcb+KK works as well. Double has very poor approach options, other than a safe cancelled Cattelites from a Hornet Bomber or her fast dash. Watch out for her throw, and on jump ins expect j.HP (pushblock the last hit). Never try to ground reset Double. Hornet Bomber has invincibility from startup until halfway in its trajectory so stuffing it is impossible.

Peacock - Remove your head as soon as possible, possibly via super jumping. At all times keep the head near Peacock and start air dashing to approach. If at any point you see her go for Geroge at the Air Show (airplane), qcb+HP wherever you are to catch her in Nom and go in for the combo. A smart Peacock will start doing the ground bombs to hurt your head and call HP Item Drop to deal with you. At this point, reduce the amount of air dashes and instead do double jumps for the same purpose of closing in. If Peacock has any assists, do not try punishing them and focus on Peacock. She can let item drop go and/or Argus Agony full screen to punish you for that. A Double Hornet Bomber assist would help you here to keep Peacock’s zoning in check, as would Parasoul’s motorcycle. Parasoul’s motorcycle is more advantageous because of the little time she actually spends on screen, so it’s harder to punish. Call motorcycle and proceed with your aerial approach. Peacock’s dead zone normally is midscreen in the air, and immediately next to her in the air. Peacock’s dead zone with the head off increases to include all the air above Peacock, excluding HP Item Drop. So once it drops, her dead zone is there for the rushing.

Parasoul - This is another matchup where it’s advantageous to remove your head. Egret blockbuster will hit the head and lose the hitbox, so it’s no longer a safe option for Parasoul. Against a rushing Parasoul, dp+LK if close enough will always beat out any aerial normals. dp+HP covers a nice arc as well, so you can even swing dp+LK+HP to do both DPs at the same time and control the air. To stop a zoning Parasoul, keep the head next to her and pretend she’s Peacock with a DP. Be mindful of the range in which you approach in the air, or a j.HP will smack you down. In case of motorcycle, dp+HK,HK to avoid it altogether. If your head is off, make sure you use it when it’s out of view so it may catch the opponent below. A f/b+HP xx qcb+HP works wonders, keeping the opponent pinned while you land. When in a tight blockstring, s.LP is a godsend. With 5 frames of activation, and considering that only tear explosions make Parasoul’s normals safe, s.LP is fast enough to hit before even a throw activates. Another possibility is dp+LK,LK which hits and lets you follow up in the air for a full combo.

Filia - Rushdown, mixups and resets are the name of her game. Expect IADs and air Hairballs as approaches. Don’t bother trying to punish blocked air Hairballs unless you are already on the ground. dp+LK,LK is your main tool against her rushdown and resets, but be wary of her long IAD chains and keep blocking high. Always pushblock the last hit of everything. Use your head roll as an invincible tool to surprise a rushing Filia if you don’t know whether she will go for a low hit or a throw. c.MP makes most of her IAD moves whiff (and usually forces a crossup). Use s.HK on your head to control the air with your launched head. Remember that as soon as the head lands it can move, so b+HP to bring it close again and qcb+HP/dp+HP/s.HK to keep the head games going. Unfortunately every time she’s in the ground next to you she can do a great low/throw mixup, so your mission is to try and avoid that situation. Against Filia, it is usually a bad idea to go for a reset on the ground for fear of DP into super into combo, or simply a throw into the corner into the Ringlet Spike loop. Resets on the air are generally (barring random air supers) safer if done timely, ending at most in a neutral position on a tech.

Cerebella - Watch for the j.HP dash; she’s vulnerable during it to a dp or qcb+PP. A jumping Cerebella will likely mean a j.HK, which on hit can lead to full combos including restands and possible resets. Be ready to tech her air command grab or regular air throw at the peak of a launch or during j.LP flurry. Her armor can only be beat by c.HK or Omnom, so remove your head as soon as the situation will allow it. When the head is within her sweep distance, make sure to use dp+HP to put it safely behind or under the opponent. If you expect an armored run, b+HP xx qcb+HP to stop her. Watch out where the head is; one Titan Knuckle and she will blow it back beyond your comfort zone. Keep an eye out for any ground blockstrings. Pushblock every chance you get, especially after s.MP or c.MP, and always try to dp+LK,LK before every s.HK’s second hit.

Ms. Fortune - Well, at the very worst, assume the other player has read and memorized this guide, as well as added some more tech to the mix. dp+LK,LK against any IAD attempts, and beware doing any normals from IAD for the same reason. Keep your head on as long as your opponent does in order to have an invincible startup move at your disposal. As soon as your opponent removes their head, use your head and f+HP/b+HP to hit the head, almost ignoring the point character. A good idea is to cancel f+HP/b+HP into something that will hit the point character, risking of course the longer recovery time. While the opponent is guarding your head move, manually attack the head. Try to never hit the head out of any recovery in order to not let it become available quicker. Always use sweep with c.HK to hit the head, using your head to keep your opponent at bay (or dp+HP on an incoming opponent if you’re stuck doing c.HK still). Never try to ground reset a Fortune for fear of dp+LK,LK into followup into full combo.

Performing Combos and Resets

First of all, chains are the way to go because they cancel one lighter attack into another, heavier attack without much recovery. Her standing, jumping and crouching chains are LP->LK->MP->MK->HP/HK (meaning either of the two will chain but it would be the last). If you’ve gone through the tutorials you were told you can skip normals in the chains as long as you still hit them in sequence. Past that, some experimentation will show you which special moves. Here are some helpful ground chains. Note that c.LK has longer range and thus is usually the most useful option, although s.LP is quicker. The chains that end in s.HK result in launching.

c.LK, s.MK (2 hits), s.HK
c.LK, c.MP, s.HK
c.LK, s.MP (all hits if head is on), s.HK
c.LK, s.MK (2 hits), c.HK
c.LK, s.MK (2 hits), s.HP (head on)

There are other chains, but let’s start with these. You can end all these chains with s.HP (head on) and cancel it into other moves. Now, assume that you hit one of the chains that ends in s.HK. Now, you can hold uf to jump forward and do one of these chains.

j.MK (2 hits), j.HK
j.HP (head on) xx dash, j.MK (2-hits), j.HK
j.LK, j.MP, j.MK (2 hits), j.HK

These are a few examples. Now, let me show you ways to extend those combos. Instead of the last j.HK, try:

qcb+P (head on)

In the first three cases, you can follow up for more hits and damage. The last option can only be followed by a headless head attack with correct positioning, so don’t worry about that just yet. For the first two options, land, then hit the opponent with an OTG c.LK->s.MK (2 hit) and continue from there. For the third option, wait until the opponent is just about to hit the ground, and hit qcb+HP to restand them with an OTG OMNOMNOM. This will give you enough time to do other things, such as another ground chain into another launcher. Be careful about not repeating the first normals in multiple chains.

Now, let’s look at the aerial chains above. For any chains containing j.MK, you normally have to be careful about waiting until the second hit of it connects because it doesn’t have much hitstun. This is where a reset comes in. Since the first hit doesn’t have much hitstun, a useful reset is j.MK (1 hit) xx dash xx throw. Note the dash has to be cancelled by the throw since the timing is very fast. So basically they turn into:

j.MK (1 hit) xx dash xx throw
j.LK, j.MP, j.MK (1 hit) xx dash xx throw

You can also throw after some timed light attacks, although those resets are easier to spot.

s.HK, j.LP, j.LK, wait, air throw
headless dp+HP, j.LP, wait, throw

Bread and Butter Combos

These are short bits you can piece together.

  1. Head on, c.LK, s.MK (2-hits), s.HK, j.HP XX air dash forward, j.MK (2-hits) xx qcb+HP
  2. Combo 1, then OTG qcb+HP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2-hits), s.HK, j.MP, j.MK (2-hits), b+HP, XX qcb+MK XX qcb+KK, qcb+HP (strict, character specific)
  3. Combo 1, then dp+HP, j.MP, j.MK (2-hit, character specific) XX qcb+MK XX qcb+KK
  4. Air throw XX OTG air qcb+PP
  5. IAD j.LK, j.MK (2-hit), qcb+MK, land, Combo 1
  6. s.HK, air throw XX qcb+KK/qcb+PP (will not work as written for Double)
  7. s.HK, j.LP, j.LK, air throw XX qcb+KK/qcb+PP (will work on anyone)
  8. s.HK, j.LP, j.LK, air throw, j.LK, land, s.LK, s.MK…
  9. dp+K->K, j.LK, j.MK (2-hit) XX qcb+MK, land, OTG c.LK, s.MK (2-hit), s.HK…
  10. Combo 3, then qcb+HP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2-hit)… (will not work against Double, Cerebella, Filia because of hitbox properties not allowing qcb+HP to hit them after the one OTG has been used up)
  11. Combo 3, then dp+HP, jump, j.LK, j.MK (2-hit) XX qcb+MK XX qcb+KK
  12. Combo 3, then dp+HP, jump, qcb+KK
  13. Headless, head behind Fortune about 1/3 screen away, qcb+KK, dp+HP, jump, qcb+KK, dp+HP, jump, qcb+KK…


The easiest mixups Fortune has involve a high/low mixup off an IAD (thanks to OneSanitarium for the IAD j.HK whiff idea).

IAD j.LK, j.MK (2-hit), qcb+K (all hit high)
IAD j.LK, j.MK (2-hit), j.HK (whiff, land), c.LP/c.LK… (first three hits hit high, last one hits low)
IAD j.LK, j.MK (2-hit), j.HK (whiff, land), throw (first three hits hit high, last one counter to low block)
IAD j.LK, j.MK (1-hit), j.HK (whiff, land), c.LP/c.LK… (first two hits hit high, last one hits low)
IAD j.LK, j.MK (1-hit), j.HK (whiff, land), throw (first two hits hit high, last one counter to low block)
IAD, j.LP/j.lLK, land, c.LP/LK (high, then low)
IAD, j.LP/j.LK, land, throw (high, then low block counter)
IAD, j.LP, j.LK, c.LP/c.LK… (two high hits, and a low hit)
IAD, j.LP, j.LK, land, throw (two high hits and one counter to low block)

Another mixup involves a crossup. This one can be done off an IAD with half of the cast, but for others the dash has to be slightly delayed.

IAD/air dash, j.LP xx qcb+LK

j.LP has great crossup potential because the hitbox is a semicircle under Fortune (think a less enormous version of Valentine’s j.HP), and it can combo into qcb+LK. Her air qcb+K also have good crossup potential for the same reason, but move slightly forward. At a certain height, qcb+LK will crossup when j.LP does not. At certain heights also j.LP and qcb+LK may both cross up or neither may crossup. The beauty of it is you don’t have to keep track of whether they do cross up or not. It is not only relatively safe, but you don’t need to correct your inputs on crossup in this game. Only the opponent is left guessing. On hit you can simply do light attacks to continue. s.LP is recommended for being the fastest one.

Speaking of not having to correct your inputs, a fun mixup involves simply jumping on top of the opponent’s head and simply doing level 3. The level 3 goes straight down, so the opponent has to guess which direction to block. This isn’t very practical but it is very sneaky. It is best used when super jumping above the opponent’s head so they are out of sight. Otherwise the player will be able to tell which direction to block based on which direction their character is facing.


The mixups listed in the previous section help with applying pressure to the opponent. Know the following:

  • All chains are true blockstrings, with or without the head.
  • Cancelling anything from the chains is unsafe except medium/heavy attacks into qcf+LP rekkas.
  • Rekkas are safe on block, except the last qcf+P
  • One safe way to end the rekkas is headless, hold HP during them then let go of HP after the third one, cancelling that into dp+HP
  • You can make the overhead followup to the rekkas (qcb+K) safe on startup by holding HP, doing the motion, then letting go of HP and cancelling into qcb+HP to keep the opponent pinned town. On hit, end result is a connected Nom.
  • qcf+LP rekkas are positive on hit if the head was hit by the last rekka and connects with the opponent. The advantage is enough to link s.LP easily, c.LP with more difficulty.
  • If you’re not doing something with your head in a matchup where you SHOULD, you’re not moving the head around enough. b+HP is enough to make the opponent remember that the head still exists, cancelling it into qcb+HP is always a good idea unless the opponent is jump happy (for which you cancel into dp+HP).
  • Every time you IAD or jump into an air-to-air j.HK, if your head is on the opposite side of the screen always try qcb+HP after hitting j.HK (or slightly before). If the opponent fails to tech correctly, an Omnom should give you a followup combo. Just remember the OTG was used by doing this. You may be able to avoid using up the Nom if you do HP xx qcb+HP instead.
  • Against airdash- and jump-happy players, s.HK on your own head will control the skies. If your s.HK doesn’t hit, the awkward launch arc for your head will prove to be more than annoying. On hit, you can even connect qcb+PP or other blockbusters if spaced correctly. On block or even trade, the opponent will be in no position to retaliate, especially if you cancel s.HK into a tapped (not held down) head call (qcb+MP). Always remember; after the head is hit, it will immediately be available for a move, so b+HP will place it in range of your s.HK again, or you can cancel that into either Omnom or the Sneeze (dp+HP). OneSanitarium notes that you can jump cancel if your s.HK hits your head, even in block. This can allow you to keep the air pressure going with IADs.
  • When you hit any headbutt (headless HP) in a combo, you will have frame advantage (unless you are doing it to try to make a VERY unsafe move safe; see the aptly titled “Protect Yourself by Giving Head” section for more info). Use it to set up a low/throw mixup, or a IAD j.LP xx qcb+LK crossover mixup. Sometimes you can set up a cross under this same way.

Protect Yourself by Giving Head

While headless, it is possible for the head’s HP to give you enough advantage from an otherwise-disadvantageous position. Think about this scenario:

qcf+MP, qcf+MP, HP

If the rekkas don’t hit the head, you’ll be at enough advantage (with proper timing, although it’s not too strict) to link any medium attacks and keep going. This scenario as written is hard to come by, considering the head can’t be hit with the rekkas for it to provide you with the HP headbutt. However, if you remember the Head Games section, you’ll remember a bullet point about negative edge.

While you’re holding down HP your head will be invincible to your attacks, and by letting go you will negative edge the HP headbutt, as long as your input direction is neutral. So in reality, the scenario above is perfectly viable, so long as you do this:

qcf+MP, qcf+MP (hold HP before it connects), release HP

This allows the head plenty of time to recover from being hit by the first rekka. You can hold HP at any point after the first rekka comes out, so long as you hold it before the second one is active. This will look very awkward; the hitstun on qcf+MP is a lot longer than you’d think, so it sometimes looks like it will not combo (and sometimes you’ll want to use it as an opportunity to do a low/throw mixup).

Additionally, every time you’re holding HP and the head is near the opponent, it can provide you with cover in the form of a tiny frame trap. With enough pressure, the opponent will have a hard time pushblocking.

Try these combos in the corner, head and opponent in the corner as well:

1) s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, qcf+MP, release HP xx qcb+HP, qcf+PP, OTG HP, dash, s.LK, s.MP, delay s.MK, qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.LP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, qcf+MP xx qcf+PP
2) s.MK (2 hits), HP xx (before the animation for MK is over) qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits), HP xx (before the animation for MK is over) qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, qcf+MP xx release HP xx qcb+HP, qcf+PP

And maybe now you’re ready for the big ones. These combos fully utilize grounded IPS, and require the head to be close to the corner and a cornered opponent. These incorporate the rekka loop. Combo 5 is Combo 4 adopted for Double, although Combo 5 works on everyone except Parasoul as well.

3) IAD j.LK, j.MK (2 hits) xx qcb+MK, land, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.LP, s.LP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP xx qcb+HP, qcf+PP, OTG HP, jump forward, j.qcb+PP/j.qcb+KK
4) IAD j.LK, j.MK (2 hits) xx qcb+MK, land, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.LP, s.LP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, dp+HK->HK, j.LK, j.MK (2 hits), j.HK xx f+HP, land, s.HK, j.MP, j.MK (2 hits) xx b+HP xx qcb+MK xx qcb+KK, OTG HP, qcf+PP
5) IAD j.LK, j.MK (2 hits) xx qcb+MK, land, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, s.LP, s.LP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, release HP, dp+HK->HK, j.LK, j.MK (2 hits), j.HK xx f+HP, land, s.HK, j.MP, j.MK (2 hits) xx b+HP xx qcb+MK xx qcb+KK, OTG HP, qcf+PP

Midscreen-To-Corner Combos

The basic midscreen to corner combo depends on a head-on strong rekka combo into qcf+PP. Here’s an example:

IAD j.LK, j.MK (2 hits) xx qcb+MK, land, s.MK (2 hits), s.HP xx qcf+HP, qcf+HP, qcf+HP xx qcf+PP

The qcf+PP blockbuster leaves you at a slight advantage; enough advantage to link an OTG c.LP/c.LK and continue with the combo.

qcf+PP, c.LK, s.MK (2 hits), s.HK, j.MK (2 hits), j.HK, HP, s.MP, delay s.MK (2 hits, restand)…

So when midscreen, if the combo starts toward the direction closest to the corner, it’s possible to combine both of these (still obeying IPS) into one combo.

IAD j.LK, j.MK (2 hits) xx qcb+MK, land, s.MK (2 hits), s.HP xx qcf+HP, qcf+HP, qcf+HP xx qcf+PP, c.LK, s.MK (2 hits), s.HK, j.MK (2 hits), j.HK, HP, s.MP, delay s.MK (2 hits, restand)…

If you’re looking for a headless combo that will do the equivalent, you’ll need to do a rekka/headbutt loop, with proper head positioning. The loop required depends on the positioning of the head, and unfortunately there’s not set combo here. If the head is behind the opponent before the rekkas, you’ll need to add the extra HP that combos 1 and 3 of the Rekka/Headbutt loop include in order to move the head slightly further back. If the head is further back it will not be necessary. You’ll need to try different things and find what fits you. The rekka combo, when done properly, should carry you and the opponent to the corner for a corner combo, much like combos 4 and 5 in the Rekka/Headbutt loop section.

Stuff You Can Learn to Make People Hate Your Guts And Ignore You Online (Sandwich Combos, etc.)

Otherwise known in other guides as “Advanced Tactics”, this extremely vague title wouldn’t do justice to the kind of disgusting collection of ideas I’m throwing your way right now. The title I went with does it justice.

There are plenty of dirty tricks up Nadia’s sleeve, most of which involve the sort of shenanigans that make people want to punch you in the gut and/or praise you for the awesome time. So let’s start!

Sandwich combos are a pet name generally used for shadow characters for times when the character and the clone/puppet/shadow are in different sides of the character. I prefer to call them delicious Tuna Sandwiches.

So there are many ways to set up Tuna Sandwiches for Nadia to gobble up. Some require spacing, and some create their own space. To start a sandwich combo, try any of the following setups. When the last HP hits, you will successfully be in a Tuna Sandwich combo

Head on:

  1. combo into s.HK, j.HP xx dash, j.MK (2 hits) xx qcb+HP, land, jump forward, j.HK xx f+HP, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP

Let me take a break to explain the delay thing. s.MP while headless has a ton of htistun, enough to wait a tiny bit of time then doing s.MK to result in a restand. Try that out.

  1. dp+LK->LK, j.LP, j.MK (2 hits), qcb+HP, OTG HP, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP

Head off, behind you:
3) combo into qcf+PP, OTG HP, dash, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP

Head off, underneath you:
4) combo into qcf+MP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP xx qcf+PP, OTG HP, dash, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP

Head off, underneath the opponent:
5) combo into qcf+MP, (hold HP) qcf+MP, qcf+MP, release f+HP, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP

Head off, full screen behind the opponent:
6) combo into qcf+LP, qcf+LP, qcf+LP, HP, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP

Head off, behind opponent but closer than full screen:
7) combo into HP, s.HK, j.MK xx qcb+LK/MK xx qcb+KK, HP (may OTG), s.MP, delay s.MK, HP

In all of these combos, if you already used s.MP or c.MP in a stage 3 by the time you need to start the sandwich, remember that you can do s.LK, s.MP or s.LP, s.MP instead if you have not used that normal yet.

In any opportunity where you hit j.qcb+KK or qcf+PP with the head behind you, you can use HP, dash, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP and continue. As stated before, you can s.LK, s.MP, delay s.MK or s.LP, s.MP, delay s.MK instead if the IPS is keeping track of MP. Particularly for j.qcb+KK, if the head is further than HP distance, you can use b.HP instead, dash in, s.MP, delay, s.MK, f+HP, s.LK, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP instead. This is crucial for heavy characters with smaller bounces.

Now that you know how to start a Tuna Sandwich, let’s put some tuna in it.

  1. s.MP, s.MK, HP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP (hold HP), release HP, s.LK, s.MP, s.MK, HP…
  2. s.MP, s.MK, HP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP (hold HP), qcf+LK, release HP, s.LK, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP… (will not work for more than one rep against Parasoul and will use the OTG)
  3. s.MP, s.MK, HP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP (hold HP), qcf+LK, release f+HP, s.LK, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP… (will not work for more than one rep against Double and will use the OTG)

Combos 2 and 3 have the potential to work midscreen, but combo 3 is more likely to work. The trick is to delay s.MK as much as possible to allow the head to recover from f+HP and be able to do HP.

How do you finish a Tuna Sandwich?

  1. qcb+HP, qcf+PP/qcb+PP/j.qcb+KK (1 to 3 meters)
  2. corner, dp+HK->HK, j.LP, j.MK (2 hits), j.HK, HP, land, s.HK, j.MP, j.MK (2 hits) xx b+HP (whiff) xx qcb+KK, HP, qcf+PP (2 meters, will not work as written against Parasoul)
  3. corner, dp+HK->HK, j.LP, j.MK (2 hits), j.HK, f+HP, land, s.HK, j.MP, j.MK (2 hits) xx b+HP (whiff) xx qcb+KK, OTG qcb+HP, qcf+PP (2 meters, will not work as written against Parasoul)

A full sandwich combo into any finishers is likely to build one or more meters, making the cost of ending them not hurt nearly as much.

What if you want an open-faced tuna sandwich? You can choose to cut the combo short and go for a reset. In these combos, it is difficult to see the kind of reset that is coming, since you are almost always at a great frame advantage. So try these resets and mixups with your combos.

  1. s.MK, HP, IAD j.LP xx qcb+LK

The IAD j.LP may or may nor cross up, as will the qcb+LK. On hit you’ll be on stage 1, landing into the free stage 2, head behind you. Cue combo starter #4: c.LP/LK, s.MP, s.MK (2 hits) xx qcf+MP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP xx qcf+PP, OTG HP, dash, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP and congratulations, you’ve put the opponent back into the same nasty ass predicament.

  1. s.MK, HP, throw forward

Obviously, a throw can be done as well. After the throw, you can choose to start another sandwich combo by OTG HP, dash, s.MP, delay s.MK, f+HP, s.LK, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP. Or do whatever, like OTG HP, jump, qcb+PP/KK. If you expect a chicken block, jump and throw instead (and on whiff you can j.LP coming down for a crossup possibility), and OTG HP, land, s.MP, delay s.MK, HP and restart

  1. s.MK, HP, delay c.LP/LK

There is always the possibility for the low/throw mixup after any HP. To make it harder for the opponent to guess, crouch continuously after every HP, having him expect the low, then stand up and throw. A few reps will be enough to allow a c.LP/LK to go through, if the opponent is still standing afterwards. Obviously on hit not only does it restart the sandwich, but outside of the corner a c.LK is likely to hit your own head and push it back a bit further in case the midscreen sandwich combo is putting the head too close to the opponent.

There are a couple more resets worth mentioning, one of which involves combos 2 or 3. During any rep, substitute with:

  1. s.MK, HP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP (hold HP), qcf+K, release HP almost immediately after qcf+LK hits

Unlike the regular combo, which lets them bounce from qcf+LK and then hits HP, this one will hit almost immediately, cutting hitstun to be the hitstun of a HP and not the bounce of qcf+LK the opponent is expecting. Against everyone except Fortune, it is possible to cross under to the other side, for a c.LP/LK or throw mixup. Even against Fortune, the hitstun of HP will be less than qcf+LK so she will still be susceptible to the same low/throw mixup, regardless of not crossing under.

Another very successful reset can be done against everyone except Parasoul and Fortune, from combo 2.

  1. s.MK, HP, qcf+MP, qcf+MP (hold HP), qcf+LK, HP at the peak of the bounce, dash, c.LK/throw

The bounce from qcf+LK plus the bounce from HP allow for a cross under reset and a low/throw mixup. To be quite honest, it doesn’t need to cross under, but it makes the blocking low option less obvious of you are also reversing the direction.

Soon you’ll find that the more you incorporate these resets into more sandwich combos, the easier it gets. Soon you’ll have a few perfects on your belt because most of these resets are pretty damn invisible.

For assists, I’ve found that DP HK is a great anti-air. I play peacock along with Ms fortune so I use it quite a bit with my zoning. That and I don’t get hated on for using double. It hits painwheels, parasouls, IAD filias, and even jump happy cerebellas with ease. Put in a teleport, and they eat their daily fiber instead of getting in on Peacock.

Thanks for the input. Since ATM I’m doing Solo Fortune I’m not yet aware of good assists for her or which attacks make better assists.

That, and I’ve even hit Cerebella out of a battletoads using the assist and shooting one projectile. I love it. Though I heard that standing MK is alright as an assist too.

Did not know you can cancel Headbutt into NomNomNom
Did not know you can negative edge to not hit your own head (time to map HP to one my shoulder buttons #padplayerproblems)

Nice guide Guitalex i noticed you doing a lot of these during our set the other day

I’m practicing on getting that timing down so i can catch players in the NomNomNom before they land so I don’t eat an OTG
But more importantly just trying to improve my overall play

You can also cancel f+HP or b+HP to OMNOMNOM, as well as into dp+HP. Remember, they act like normals, so they are cancellable.

As for the OMNOMNOM not eating your OTG, note that it will never work against Filia, Cerebella or Double. Their hitboxes are weird, thus when their physical bodies hit the ground their hurtboxes are not low enough to the ground for any head followups to catch before the OTG, meaning also that if you used the OTG you cannot catch them again. I edited the guide to be more specific about this.


you have to use a different timing is all

That vid actually doesn’t show what I’m talking about.

I’m saying try using an OTG, repositioning the head then doing air qcb+KK and trying to catch her from there.

The hitboxes change the further they fall, so early on (like shown in the video) their hitboxes are different that falling from a greater height.

Although, not sure if f+HP or b+HP can even juggle her from qcb+KK once the OTG is used. If so, there’s a chance to still get multiple OTGs.

Updated some strategies, added resets and a matchup.

If you want, I will make a printable edition of it. The only thing that it lacks, for me, are the following:

-Other character matchups
-Assists from other characters that would benefit her in case she gets used in a team
-Solo strategies

Do it and I’ll do my best to make a printable edition out of it. And I won’t include the **Awesome Combos of Impracticality **part because, you said it, it’s impratical.

Well, it is a work in progress. I still need to add a lot to it.

Also unfortunate is the fact that each post has a size limit and the first one already reached that limit. I should’ve reserved three posts for this, but instead only had two.

Added every other character matchup, unsure of information on good assists for her yet. Added fun and useful mixups and tips on pressuring with Fortune.

Can a mod move the posts? In the sense that moving your post that is to the bottom of this thread from there to the top?

Do not know. Sounds like a possibility.

I’m guessing the IAD j.LK>j.MK(1)>j.HK(whiff) has been doing well for you?

Actually I don’t have the muscle memory for it yet so by the time I remember I’m already doing what I always do, and the times I DO remember I’m pushblocked right at the j.MK’s hit lol

Also thanks for reminding me that was you; I couldn’t find the post.

Well obviously anyone who doesn’t sit there and just take Fortunes mixup is a filthy cheater. :smiley:
It’s hard to remember since it’s a very quick thing very early in the chain (1 1/2 moves in, yeah!) I don’t have it down yet much either, but I DO have Cerecopter assist to make it easier to do.

edit: For pressure, if you hit her head with s.HK you can jump cancel it. I try to do it when I remember that. Might be good for some safe IOHs and stuff.